Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

I can't wait for the usual suspects to blow smoke about how Brooks had nothing to do with losing this game. Forget the fumbles, how many QBs do you know that call an audible and then take a sack. If this moron had a brain he'd still be dumber than a stump. The Saints should have signed him to an incentive-laden contract, a very simple one: he should get paid when the Saints win and not when they don't. Then he could prove whether or not he's one of the top 5 QBs in the league because ever since he made that silly statement , he's gone on to prove he isn't.

This past week he stated he ran more (and, strangely was more successful) during the year he took over for Jeff Blake because he didn't know the offense that well. Now he supposedly knows the offense and he stinks. Someone oughtta arrest him for larceny because he's stealing money from the Saints' organization. They're paying Todd Bouman a million bucks this year so they might as well play him. They should bench Brooks (so he doesn't get hurt) and then next year hope they can find some team stupid enough (like some folks frequenting this website) to take him off their hands. Since he's making big money that's probably not likely but, because we're Saints fans, if we ain't got hope, we ain't got nothin'.



Situational awareness? Even if this guy could spell that term he wouldn't have the faintest idea what it means. Passing statistics are great only if a team wins. The Saints do not necessarily win with Brooks at the helm (look at their record with him as a starter) and the sooner Haslett figures that out the more likely he is to keep his job. Otherwise he's a goner...and rightfully so.

[Edited on 24/11/2003 by ColdFusion]

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

Do you people watch all the players and the entire game or does your tunnel vision limit you to watching Brooks? Just a curious question.

Pretty authoritative post Blake. ...and you get paid by...umm...who is it again that pays you for all this football knowledge.

;)


[Edited on 24/11/2003 by ColdFusion]

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

I\'ve been a Saints fan ever since the day they drafted Archie Manning. And I\'ve forgotten more about football than most of the young pups that visit this site. And there are certains truths about the game that have to be accepted. And one is this: Teams are always more successful with a smart QB possessing a below average arm than they are with a ignorant QB possessing an above average arm. That\'s a fact and all the blind faith one can muster will never change that.

Brooks has all the raw talent in the world...and none of the smarts to use it wisely. That\'s another fact and those foolish enough to not believe it are also foolish enough to not know this is a Saints team that proves it...consistently...week after week...game after game.

Can you imagine how successful this offense would be if it had McAlister and a QB that knew how to throw a screen pass...or read a defensive setup...or not call a timeout in the first offensive series of the game...or not throw the ball away on a two-point conversion...or not run into the fullback on a first and goal?

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

And what I had to say is so true, I had to say it twice!

(sorry...)

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

Imagine...a line that could block for the screen pass, or block consistantly at all. A special teams unit that could kick a field goal. A defense that could stop someone...ANYone. Receivers that could catch more than they drop. Sure would be nice huh? I think a QB with eyes in the back of his head might help too.

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

Hey saintfan, who I get paid by is not the issue. It\'s about football common sense and an ability to look at a situation and be able to determine why that situation exists. I have that ability and you don\'t because you\'ve put all your football eggs in the Aaron Brooks basket for so long, admitting he sucks would be tantamount to admitting you\'ve been wrong all this time.

BTW, you\'ll have to do better than some pissant personal attack to change the facts. Brooks has a great arm and no brain to go with it. Are the Saints perfect in every way elsewhere on the team? Of course not. But great quarterbacks have an inate talent for overcoming adversity. Brooks creates it. And if you could stop your insane defense of him long enough to see reality you might understand that. But you can\'t help yourself, can you? Fair enough. It\'s clear that this is more about you not being wrong than it is about his ability as a starting quarterback.

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

Who cares? It doesn\'t matter how many times someone says something that\'s wrong...it\'s still wrong.

Mark Twain once said, \"Better to appear to be a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.\"



[Edited on 24/11/2003 by ColdFusion]

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

It\'s very simple, for the last three years I have watched Brooks (the leader of the team) fumble snaps, fail to make the correct call at the line, fail to read the defense, and throw inaccurate passes to the point that every reciever on the team is afraid to go across the middle. When McCarthy came in we were supposed to install a West Coast Offense, but Brooks inability to read the middle of a defense and throw an accurate ball have all but removed anything that resembles a successfull west coast offense. Im not saying that we don\'t run anything resembling a WCO, but I am saying that the routes across the middle that are the basis of the WCO have not been successfull. Yes recievers are droping some balls, but I truly feel that it is a direct result of the inaccuracy of Brooks\'s passes. They are scared. Donte won\'t play unless he is 100%? Aaron has Donte scared to catch a pass, and I believe the same can be said for Pathon and its reaching the point that Horn is doing the same. Yes Boo had a big game today, but he was also split out as a wide reciever a lot today, and how many 5 yard catches across the middle did he have? I heard Kenny Wilkerson on Buddy D. this morning asking why the fans boo Brooks after an interception, yet they were chanting \"Deuce\" after his fumbles last week? Well I can tell you that I was chanting Deuce because Deuce will not make the same mistake again (We all saw him take care of the ball on his big run today), while Aaron is still bobbling snaps in week 12 of the season despite being a starting quaterback for 3 years now.

And one more thing, I hate that Brooks never puts his head down and cuts back inside when he scrambles. I can understand it if he has no chance of getting a first down, but he\'ll run straight to the sideline even if he needs just 1 more yard for the first.

[Edited on 23/11/2003 by progress]

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

You\'re not the first one with that idea. I\'ll just quote myself from October 27th:

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

Come one guys. It\'s Deuce\'s fault! Can\'t you guys all see that? <sips the Tang> Brooks is the heart and soul of this team <tang me, tang me>.

You know what, that last part is probably true. Brooks perfectly embodies this team. Mental mistakes, inconsistent play, streaky, doesn\'t take care of the ball, no real sense of urgency. That sums up both this team and AB perfectly. I guess Saintfan and Billy are right. Brooks is the leader, and this team has taken on his personality.

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

You really have to take a lot of the things said on this board with a grain of salt. This is a board full of opinions and obviously all of \'em can\'t be right. Altough some members have tried to impress upon me than no one can be wrong. I don\'t know what kind of sense that makes but oh well......... Here\'s my opinion of the game.

Mistakes, mistakes, mistakes. Turnovers, penalties, missed tackles, etc, etc,...

I\'m not gonna comment on what was said about Brooks, because it is not worth commenting on. The offense moved the ball pretty well, but mistakes killed drives. The defense put up a very poor effort. Special teams put up a poor effort.

As much of a Haslett supporter as I am, I would not be honest if I said that most of the blame does not fall on Haslett\'s shoulders. He can\'t make the plays for the players, but they are very undisplined. That falls on the head coach. It\'s eleven weeks into the season and for whatever reason Haslett has not instilled disipline into thses players.

So you guys are giving up on the playoffs AGAIN?? Hmmmm....Ok!!! Thought you would have learned by now, but I guess not.

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

I have no doubt that all of you guys are Saints fans. None what so ever. This Saints team is not winning like any of us would like. I could call some of the members out on some of the posts they made, but then I\'d be singled out as a trouble makers. I\'ve almost become scared to disagree with anyone on here because of that. If you guys want to bleieve that it\'s Brooks fault or whoever\'s fault then continue to believe that. I guess the secret to happiness on this board is to find an opinion to agree with and just go with that....

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

HI guys, as I have said a million times Brooks has no leadership skills, and that can\'t be taught. He does not have the abiilty to make the correct decision in a snap. I am not blaming him solely for any loss, I am stating that these are his weaknesses. They cannot be fixed. It is time to move on.

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

I believe they still have a legit shot at making the playoffs. It\'s gonna be tough but I will continue to believe they will. There are members here that wrote this team off a long time ago and you are one of \'em. Is there anything wrong with that? You\'ll have to answer that for yourself. But I just ain\'t one of those fans who is going to come in here and post how bad the Saints suck and how there is no way this team is gonna make the playoffs, only to come back on here and say I will jump back on the bandwagon when they beat this team and that team. But, everyone has their own ways. In the end we are all still fans............

[Edited on 24/11/2003 by BillyC]

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

Subguy -- You state that opinion like you are 100 percent right. Is my assumption correct?. Or would you say you\'re 30% right? Or 50%? How about 75%? Or, could you be wrong all together?

[Edited on 24/11/2003 by BillyC]

[Edited on 24/11/2003 by BillyC]

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

I\'m not blaming anyone. I just feel let down. Every year they say we are going to have a good team and for one reason or another we flop. I\'ve been a Saints fan for a long time and lived through good and bad but eventually something has to give. There are some teams that are worse but at least everyone knew they would be worse. I guess instead of complaining I\'ll just keep hoping and maybe some day....

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

Billy, I state my opinion feeling I am 100% correct. Why would I state an opinion that I believe to be 30% correct? Subguy takes a double shot of tang. :D

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

That\'s cool. Brooks has disappointed me in some areas. He has also improved in some areas this year. You could be right, but I don\'t think so...............

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

BillyC said the following:
\"That\'s cool. Brooks has disappointed me in some areas. He has also improved in some areas this year. You could be right, but I don\'t think so...............\"

You must have known somebody would ask so here goes: In what areas has he improved?

I don\'t bash Brooks because it\'s fun. I bash him because I believe (100%, not 75, 50 or 30%) that a QB with better leadership and situational awareness skills would make a dramatic difference in this teams\' fortunes. Brooks is what he is. Nothing more and making excuses for his lack of basic football expertise is commendable but misguided. It would appear that you and Jim Haslett have much in common. The difference is Brooks\' inability to get the job done will probably not cost you your job. The same can\'t be said for Haslett...

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

Brooks has improved in completion percentatge. It\'s at 60% and would be much higher if not for all the dropped passes. He also is making better decisions and not throwing into traffic as much. I\'m not here to educucate folks in the QB department, but it is very rare that a QB doesn\'t turn the ball over in a game or doesn\'t make mistakes. Brooks is not in the ideal situation a QB wants to be in. Like LummOx said in another post, Brooks has to play damn near perfect for this team to win.

Blake you are entitled to think what you want about Brooks and I\'m sure you will, but I think you would be better served to look at this whole team and put Brooks play in context..

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

Where can I get some of that tang? I need a lifetime supply please! Oh, and how much extra for rush delivery?

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

Leave it to \"D\". LOL. I want some tang? LOL

On the subject of Aaron, I really haven\'t said much about him but, it seems to me like I read something about him before he was drafted. I also have heard it mentioned on this board. Now, boy, do I know this is gonna stir the stuff but, it seems to me that I heard and have observed, the fact that he is slow mentally. He reminds me of the driver of a car. When he\'s not on the field he drives great but you give him some sauce and he\'s all over the place. His reaction time just seems to me to be a bit slow. Anyway that\'s NOT meant to bash him, it\'s just my observance.

Brooks sucks...and that's the bottom line.
 

Very well stated. The name Chad Pennington comes to mind immediately.
The 2-point throw-away infuriated me! WHY? AB made a lot of mistakes as did the whole team.

Why does this team play stupid? Dumb coaches or dumb players?



[Edited on 25/11/2003 by tweeky]