Totally sucks ... and the running game

st thomas · 01-20-2011, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

And Tom Brady sucked when it counted. Time for a change in New England?

tell me we need better offense then because we can't seem to keep seattles defense out of our backfield for that playoff game danno. if our defense pressures hassbeck like brady got pressured for only a couple more times during that game and we would have been watching saints football for 1 more week. do u agree with that?

Danno · 01-20-2011, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by strato

yes he did and thats up to them ..comparing Roman Harper to Tom Brady?..come on Danno...your smarter than that...

I'm comparing situations, and pointing out that you don't make wholesale changes based on one game. You have to look at the big picture and quit over-reacting to one game, which many are.

Danno · 01-20-2011, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by strato

So the D doesnt need an upgrade?....ok

If you think that then you need to watch more football.

st thomas · 01-20-2011, 03:39 PM

were going defense, my bets on a speed rusher and if its not i will kindly go back in my hole.

Danno · 01-20-2011, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

were going defense, my bets on a speed rusher and if its not i will kindly go back in my hole.

That or a solid DT to pair with Ellis, or a stud OLB (who can also rush the passer)

Or if Ingram is there I'm OK with that.

KMartin · 01-20-2011, 03:41 PM

I agree that a durable and credible threat in the running game would have made a huge difference. With that threat, our offense improves and we dont play the Seahawks on the road. We play in a nice warm comfortable dome. That's a huge difference for our Saints. But don't forget one thing. EVERY play has a huge impact. If we don't miss a 29 yard field goal, we are playing for the number one seed at the end of the year, everyone's frame of mind is different, we don't lose to Tampa Bay and we are probably still playing at home in the post-season even without much of a running game. Suddenly that "chip-shot" looks like a mighty big kick.

Danno · 01-20-2011, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by strato

LOL...your a funny dude...and very wrong...but whats new ...

Wrong about what?

Are you saying you would make changes based on ONE game instead of the entire 17 game season?

Personally, I'd base my decisions on the 17 games we played, not just the Seattle game.

I'm guessing Loomis and company will do the same. Are they wrong too?

st thomas · 01-20-2011, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

That or a solid DT to pair with Ellis, or a stud OLB (who can also rush the passer)

Or if Ingram is there I'm OK with that.

totally agree. even if i have to go in my hole.

Danno · 01-20-2011, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by strato

About me ... dont you think i know about our running game and dont you agree the D needs an upgrade?..you griped all year about Shanle...so dont you think its priority in the draft that we draft D?...

I never said it wasn't a priority. I was simply pointing out that basing that decision on strictly the Seattle game is shortsighted.

I'd prefer defense, but our offense has a few issues too. I just wouldn't base any decision strictly on the Seattle game. Shanle sucked the entire year, so I'm consistent on him.

And I'd probably wait until free-agency is over before declaring our #1 need in the draft. If we land a stud OLB and DE in free-agency, they're no longer a dire need in the draft.

Danno · 01-20-2011, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Ok Danno...book this..put it to a poll what we should draft...Im willing to bet D will win hands down.......we have a some good backs...i would hope upgrading the o-line would be the first thing done on offense..followed by a RB..

I agree. I'd vote Defense for sure, followed closely by a RB NOT made of glass or an OT.

01-20-2011, 03:17 PM	#11
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Originally Posted by Danno And Tom Brady sucked when it counted. Time for a change in New England? tell me we need better offense then because we can't seem to keep seattles defense out of our backfield for that playoff game danno. if our defense pressures hassbeck like brady got pressured for only a couple more times during that game and we would have been watching saints football for 1 more week. do u agree with that?

01-20-2011, 03:31 PM	#12
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by strato yes he did and thats up to them ..comparing Roman Harper to Tom Brady?..come on Danno...your smarter than that... I'm comparing situations, and pointing out that you don't make wholesale changes based on one game. You have to look at the big picture and quit over-reacting to one game, which many are.

01-20-2011, 03:35 PM	#13
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by strato So the D doesnt need an upgrade?....ok If you think that then you need to watch more football.

01-20-2011, 03:40 PM	#15
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by st thomas were going defense, my bets on a speed rusher and if its not i will kindly go back in my hole. That or a solid DT to pair with Ellis, or a stud OLB (who can also rush the passer) Or if Ingram is there I'm OK with that.

01-20-2011, 03:41 PM	#16
KMartin Rookie Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 8	I agree that a durable and credible threat in the running game would have made a huge difference. With that threat, our offense improves and we dont play the Seahawks on the road. We play in a nice warm comfortable dome. That's a huge difference for our Saints. But don't forget one thing. EVERY play has a huge impact. If we don't miss a 29 yard field goal, we are playing for the number one seed at the end of the year, everyone's frame of mind is different, we don't lose to Tampa Bay and we are probably still playing at home in the post-season even without much of a running game. Suddenly that "chip-shot" looks like a mighty big kick.
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01-20-2011, 03:39 PM	#14
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	were going defense, my bets on a speed rusher and if its not i will kindly go back in my hole.

01-20-2011, 03:42 PM	#17
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by strato LOL...your a funny dude...and very wrong...but whats new ... Wrong about what? Are you saying you would make changes based on ONE game instead of the entire 17 game season? Personally, I'd base my decisions on the 17 games we played, not just the Seattle game. I'm guessing Loomis and company will do the same. Are they wrong too?

01-20-2011, 03:52 PM	#18
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Originally Posted by Danno That or a solid DT to pair with Ellis, or a stud OLB (who can also rush the passer) Or if Ingram is there I'm OK with that. totally agree. even if i have to go in my hole.

01-20-2011, 04:00 PM	#19
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by strato About me ... dont you think i know about our running game and dont you agree the D needs an upgrade?..you griped all year about Shanle...so dont you think its priority in the draft that we draft D?... I never said it wasn't a priority. I was simply pointing out that basing that decision on strictly the Seattle game is shortsighted. I'd prefer defense, but our offense has a few issues too. I just wouldn't base any decision strictly on the Seattle game. Shanle sucked the entire year, so I'm consistent on him. And I'd probably wait until free-agency is over before declaring our #1 need in the draft. If we land a stud OLB and DE in free-agency, they're no longer a dire need in the draft.

01-20-2011, 04:06 PM	#20
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by strato Ok Danno...book this..put it to a poll what we should draft...Im willing to bet D will win hands down.......we have a some good backs...i would hope upgrading the o-line would be the first thing done on offense..followed by a RB.. I agree. I'd vote Defense for sure, followed closely by a RB NOT made of glass or an OT.