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saint5221 11-30-2003 10:10 AM

Bouman gets 3yr extension
 
Saw this on ESPN's web site in John Clayton's quick hits, this was quiet hadn't heard a peep of this anywhere else.

Nov. 27, 2003
Saintly Quiet
The Saints quietly extended the contract of backup quarterback Todd Bouman, who was scheduled to be a free agent after the season. Bouman was acquired during the offseason in a trade from the Vikings. Bouman impressed coach Jim Haslett with his arm strength and ability to lead the offense behind Aaron Brooks. The three-year extension, which will keep Bouman with the Saints through the 2006 season, is believed to be worth between $3.6 million and $3.8 million.


WhoDat 11-30-2003 11:09 AM

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1.2 mill a year for a backup? Does that sound right to you guys?

nocloning 11-30-2003 11:15 AM

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June 1st 2003: St. Louis backup quarterback Marc Bulger on Sunday signed just a one-year contract for $375,000.

No, it doesn\'t sound right. You can get scared if you see some of the starting QBs in this league and a reasonably good backup is a nice safety net, but paying that kind of money - guess they got scared.

saint5221 11-30-2003 12:16 PM

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Here is the 2002 salary cap cost of nfl QBs. It is only a one year look, not a current year at that and only the actual cap cost, so can\'t tell which contracts are escalating fast, deferred incetives and bonus etc. But it does give something to look at Boumans deal with. I highlighted a few in Boumans range.
Here is the link to the site I got this from if you want to check it out, it has more complete info on all player salaries, nothing current though.
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/footb...ion.aspx?pos=3

Manning, Peyton Colts $ 10,334,483
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Plummer, Jake Cardinals $ 8,679,899
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Brunell, Mark Jaguars $ 8,253,690
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Collins, Kerry Giants $ 7,383,600
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Stewart, Kordell Steelers $ 6,922,880
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Johnson, Brad Buccaneers $ 6,803,150
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Couch, Tim Browns $ 6,063,800
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Favre, Brett Packers $ 5,957,706
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* McNabb, Donovan Eagles $ 5,754,938
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Bledsoe, Drew Bills $ 5,001,530
Testaverde, Vinny Jets $ 4,922,067 ÂÂÂÂ*
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* McNair, Steve Titans $ 4,868,196
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Detmer, Koy Eagles $ 4,201,620
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Warner, Kurt Rams $ 3,990,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Flutie, Doug Chargers $ 3,761,966
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Gannon, Rich Raiders $ 3,714,285
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Griese, Brian Broncos $ 2,845,040
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Carr, David Texans $ 2,600,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Vick, Michael Falcons $ 2,550,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Kitna, Jon Bengals $ 2,501,260
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Smith, Akili Bengals $ 2,304,038
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Harrington, Joey Lions $ 2,300,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Garcia, Jeff 49ers $ 2,209,523
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Hasselbeck, Matt Seahawks $ 2,003,960
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Culpepper, Daunte Vikings $ 1,972,500
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Pennington, Chad Jets $ 1,964,407
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Dilfer, Trent Seahawks $ 1,751,800
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Fiedler, Jay Dolphins $ 1,716,629
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Brooks, Aaron Saints $ 1,587,473
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Collins, Todd Chiefs $ 1,416,666
ÂÂÂÂ* Frerotte, Gus Bengals $ 1,401,260
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Green, Trent Chiefs $ 1,400,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Miller, Jim Bears $ 1,300,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Beuerlein, Steve Broncos $ 1,229,140
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Detmer, Ty Lions $ 1,213,940
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Chandler, Chris Bears $ 1,169,456
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Brady, Tom Patriots $ 1,091,613
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Carter, Quincy Cowboys $ 983,893
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Ramsey, Patrick Redskins $ 964,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Van Pelt, Alex Bills $ 900,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Weinke, Chris Panthers $ 853,960
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Lucas, Ray Dolphins $ 791,666
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Bouman, Todd Vikings $ 787,563
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Holcomb, Kelly Browns $ 760,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Huard, Damon Patriots $ 730,600
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* King, Shaun Buccaneers $ 728,150
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Martin, Jamie Rams $ 727,023
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Brees, Drew Chargers $ 710,740
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Banks, Tony Texans $ 650,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Garrett, Jason Giants $ 650,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Maddox, Tommy Steelers $ 627,160
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Delhomme, Jake Saints $ 567,050
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Tuiasosopo, Marques Raiders $ 553,240
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Huard, Brock Colts $ 551,800
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Wuerffel, Danny Redskins $ 551,710
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Quinn, Jonathan Chiefs $ 540,020
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Redman, Chris Ravens $ 533,240
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Johnson, Rob Buccaneers $ 477,970
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Mirer, Rick Raiders $ 477,610
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Matthews, Shane Redskins $ 476,350
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Peete, Rodney Panthers $ 476,080
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Quinn, Mike Texans $ 464,180
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Blake, Jeff Ravens $ 451,350
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Pederson, Doug Packers $ 450,900
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Batch, Charlie Steelers $ 450,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Graham, Kent Jaguars $ 450,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Palmer, Jesse Giants $ 393,933
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Rattay, Tim 49ers $ 391,653
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Jackson, Jarious Broncos $ 391,166
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* McCown, Joshua Cardinals $ 386,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Volek, Billy Titans $ 375,000 $ 380,040
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Johnson, Doug Falcons $ 378,960
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Stoerner, Clint Cowboys $ 378,600
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Brown, Travis Bills $ 377,070
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* McMahon, Mike Lions $ 342,346
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Garrard, David Jaguars $ 331,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Burris, Henry Bears $ 330,040
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Bulger, Marc Rams $ 320,690
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Davey, Rohan Patriots $ 307,500
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Booty, Josh Browns $ 303,690
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Woodbury, Tory Jets $ 303,600
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Rosenfels, Sage Dolphins $ 300,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Wright, Anthony Ravens $ $ 291,176
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Fasani, Randy Panthers $ 268,750
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Kittner, Kurt Falcons $ 262,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Doman, Brandon 49ers $ 260,333
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Nall, Craig Packers $ 259,666
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* O\'Sullivan, JT Saints $ 247,666
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* George, Jeff Seahawks $ 238,235
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Burford, Seth Chargers $ 237,666
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Hill, Shaun Vikings $ 230,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Parsons, Preston Cardinals $ 229,333
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Feeley, AJ Eagles $ 225,406
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* McNown, Cade 49ers $ 200,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Husak, Todd Jets $ 194,118
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Kelly, Jeff Seahawks $ 185,294
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Dinkins, Darnell Giants $ 174,706
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Sauter, Cory Bears $ 154,412
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Bellisari, Steve Rams $ 145,000
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Covington, Scott Rams $ 105,882
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Germaine, Joe Bengals $ 79,412
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Hasselbeck, Tim Eagles $ 66,176
ÂÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂÂ* Dickenson, Dave Lions $ 35,294




[Edited on 11/30/2003 by saint5221]

D_it_up 11-30-2003 02:03 PM

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I know I\'m probably about to stir up a hornet\'s nest with this reply, but do any of you think this could be a way of lighting a fire under Aaron Brooks? By signing Bouman to this extension, could it mean a possible QB controversy for next season? Could it possibly be a ploy to get him out of New Orleans? Could he be a cap casualty next year? Or is this just a worse-case scenario of the Saints overspending again?

WhoDat 11-30-2003 07:58 PM

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Hhhmmm... interesting. I don\'t know D, but I might not be real surprised to see a controversy this offseason. Honestly, it\'s unlikely, but Brooks\' play, after having gotten much better by midseason, has turned back to poo from where I\'m sitting. Haslett has GOT to be feeling the pressure, and he might be getting worried that his ability to suceed in NO is tied a bit too tightly to AB\'s right now. Especially with the lack of support AB gets from AB and the media. He was getting ripped today during the Seattle game. The announcers were saying that Brooks can\'t get hit without dropping the ball. In any case, I think they just want to secure a good backup, but if Haslett is on the hot seat he may be willing to try anything to keep his job, and that may mean a open QB battle in the offseason. More likely than not, any so-called QB controversy is likely to be just lip service, b/c I seriously doubt Haslett will do anything without his son Aaron.

saintz08 11-30-2003 10:55 PM

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You would want a quality back up in position if you had a rookie getting the start .

Brooks and the first round pick for the shot at getting Eli ..........

Benson offered the whole draft for Peyton , could be a plan ........

BrooksMustGo 11-30-2003 11:16 PM

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BEAT has observed this thread and noted all who have spoken against the now and future king Brooks. He is destined to lead this team to greatness and any blasphemies spoken against him will not be tolerated.

Drink your orange beverage quietly and recall who took us to playoff victory glory.

saintz08 11-30-2003 11:22 PM

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Drink your orange beverage quietly and recall who took us to playoff victory glory.

Az Hakim ????

saintz08 12-01-2003 10:34 AM

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Here is something for the BEAT juicers ....

PFW

New Orleans

QB Aaron Brooks struggled down the stretch last season with a bum shoulder, and some insiders pointed to head coach Jim Haslett’s unwillingness to play then-backup Jake Delhomme as a reason the team collapsed and finished out of the playoffs. This year, Brooks is suffering from a sprained left knee that kept him out of practice for a time last week, and with the Saints clinging to dim playoff hopes, some insiders believe Brooks should be given some time to rest and give the team a chance to see what else they have at quarterback. Delhomme never really got a good look at quarterback before bolting via free agency to the Panthers, and this year, backup Todd Bouman is in the last year of his contract. Bouman is somewhat of an unknown, although he was productive in three starts with the Vikings in 2001, and the Saints must determine if he is worth keeping around next season. We’re told, however, that Haslett might not bother to play Bouman because he doesn’t want to open up a QB controversy by sitting Brooks when Brooks is healthy enough to play.

saint5221 12-01-2003 12:21 PM

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Quote:

the Saints must determine if he is worth keeping around next season.
Looks like the saints already made that choice, Bouman is signed, sealed and delivered for 3 more yrs. I can\'t see Haslett benching Brooks under any circumstance and I do mean any. If Brooks got shot in the head today we would have a #2 pine box starting at QB on Sunday.

tweeky 12-01-2003 12:50 PM

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I think Haz plays the guy he thinks gives him the best shot at winning.
Obviously he thinks Brooks is that guy.
Bouman starts only if Brooks gets injured, or we\'re eliminated from playoffs.

I think the Saints think Brooks injury may be more serious than originally thought, or that he may be too fragile for the long term.

Just a conspiracy theory thought...

It might be better to sign Bouman now than risk exposing his talent to the rest of the league and being unable to afford him next year.

Maybe a change at QB is looming and they don\'t want to enter a bid-war for Bouman.

If he comes in and lights it up there will be 12 teams trying to sign him.

saint5221 12-01-2003 01:00 PM

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Quote:

Just a conspiracy theory thought...

It might be better to sign Bouman now than risk exposing his talent to the rest of the league and being unable to afford him next year.

Maybe a change at QB is looming and they don\'t want to enter a bid-war for Bouman.

If he comes in and lights it up there will be 12 teams trying to sign him.
Ahh.. Tweeky we just resigned Bouman to a three year deal, thats what this thread is about.

WhoDat 12-01-2003 01:00 PM

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5221 - I\'m considering adding this to my signature!

\"If Brooks got shot in the head today we would have a #2 pine box starting at QB on Sunday.\"

tweeky 12-01-2003 01:09 PM

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Quote:

Quote:

Just a conspiracy theory thought...

It might be better to sign Bouman now than risk exposing his talent to the rest of the league and being unable to afford him next year.

Maybe a change at QB is looming and they don\'t want to enter a bid-war for Bouman.

If he comes in and lights it up there will be 12 teams trying to sign him.
Ahh.. Tweeky we just resigned Bouman to a three year deal, thats what this thread is about.
????
Thats exactly what my post is about. It was about why we may have signed him now, instead of waiting. I\'m sorry if it was unclear.

saint5221 12-01-2003 01:11 PM

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WhoDat,does that honor get me into the Who Tang Clan as well? LOL



Tweeky cool, I did misunderstand I get you now.

[Edited on 12/1/2003 by saint5221]

saintz08 12-01-2003 01:13 PM

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Here is the signature of Haslett .

some insiders pointed to head coach Jim Haslett’s unwillingness to play then-backup Jake Delhomme as a reason the team collapsed and finished out of the playoffs.

Haslett is willing to tank the season to avoid competition for Brooks ........

Glad to see some other people were taking notes .....

saintfan 12-01-2003 03:56 PM

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Exactly how many times are you gonna post that 08?

It COULD be that Haz saw enough of Jake\'s fondness for throwing lob passes off his back foot down the middle of the field. That MIGHT be why he didn\'t put Jake in...or, it could be your conspiracy theory. :casstet:

saintz08 12-01-2003 04:15 PM

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Going into December now .

Brooks has the December not quite bad enough injury .

Saints could make the play offs .

Could it be ???

Maybe so ........

CONSPIRACY THEORY II

Playing at all Saints games now ..................... ;)

saintfan 12-01-2003 04:32 PM

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You know, most of what gets said on here is said in jest, but if you really beleive that then everything I ever thought about you is accurate. One too many movies for ya 08, or one too many gallons of 08er-aid. You\'re just plain silly man.

blake6900 12-01-2003 05:37 PM

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I\'m glad the Saints have extended Bouman\'s contract...now they need to play him.

There\'s a downside to this, of course. Next year Brooks will complain that he\'s not getting enough money over what his backup is making so he\'s gonna be a no-show at training camp...come to think of it, that might not be a downside at all.

saintz08 12-01-2003 08:18 PM

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Look at the bright side Saintsfan ,

You read it here first and it only took 11 months for Pro Football Weekly to do a write up on my Conspiracy theory ..... ;)

I will send them a note for school hours .... :P

WhoDat 12-01-2003 10:54 PM

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5221 - you\'re in! Welcome to the Who Tang Clan. Much to Saintfan\'s dismay, the clan is growing.

saint5221 12-02-2003 01:22 PM

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As an update here are the terms of Boumans contract.

PERSONNEL MATTERS: Saints backup quarterback Todd Bouman signed a three-year contract extension worth $3.805 million, according to league documents. Bouman will be paid annual base salaries of $725,000, $750,000 and $700,000 through 2006, plus a $1.255 million signing bonus in March. He is due a $300,000 roster bonus in 2006 and annual $25,000 workout bonuses.


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