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saintfan 03-09-2011 10:15 PM

NFL Players Say "NO" to 18 Game Season
 
Owners come down from 1 billion to 800 million and the players are now saying there is no way they'll accept an 18 game schedule. The plot...it thickens...


:popcorn:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6196585

Crusader 03-10-2011 06:25 AM

Well this might be a good thing. Mostly because it would keep the 4 pre-season games. The problem with the pre-season games is the price for the ticket which I think should be greatly reduced. The games themselves are really important. We might not have had Ivory on the roster this year without his performance during the pre-season.

foreverfan 03-10-2011 08:41 AM

Brett Farve couldn't drag this out as long as it's going to take. On second though...

Beastmode 03-10-2011 08:58 AM

I'm with the players, as most of us are on this one. I think a win win would be to have 1 extra paying event, like a quasi bye where people pay to come to the stadium for a meet and greet of the players and staff around the the 4th or 5th game into the season with events for the kids. A portion could be donated to charity. If done right it could generate more than the revenue from a game and the positive publicity would be off the chart.

st thomas 03-10-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 288818)
I'm with the players, as most of us are on this one. I think a win win would be to have 1 extra paying event, like a quasi bye where people pay to come to the stadium for a meet and greet of the players and staff around the the 4th or 5th game into the season with events for the kids. A portion could be donated to charity. If done right it could generate more than the revenue from a game and the positive publicity would be off the chart.

not a bad idea beast. i could be into that. i don't live around nola and i understand that a few players visit different places all over town on weeknights to meet and greet fans. i would be 1 there if i lived close. my dad went out his way back in the day to make sure my bros and i had some kind of connection to the saints players. it is a big deal as a fan.

Euphoria 03-10-2011 12:03 PM

I don't see this as a "for the Players" or "for the owners".

This is about the game.

What changes that need to be made going forward. There are pro's and con's to both sides both have some great ideas and it comes down to compromising to get what you want. Some just don't want to budge.

I use to be for a 18 game season only if you take out 2 of the pre-season games.

Now. I am against it. The reason the NFL is fun and exciting and having popularity is that EVERY GAME MATTERS! You could have teams clinching 4-5 weeks left to go and that wouldn't be any fun.

What they need to do is have a 3rd party in this CBA that represents the fans! "LOOK MO-FO's, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT"

Also Ivory would have made the team with or without the 4 game pre-season. It is up to the coaches and camps to find talent to put on the roster. The fact he was in the pre-season games says they were on to him.

st thomas 03-10-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 288835)
I don't see this as a "for the Players" or "for the owners".

This is about the game.

What changes that need to be made going forward. There are pro's and con's to both sides both have some great ideas and it comes down to compromising to get what you want. Some just don't want to budge.

I use to be for a 18 game season only if you take out 2 of the pre-season games.

Now. I am against it. The reason the NFL is fun and exciting and having popularity is that EVERY GAME MATTERS! You could have teams clinching 4-5 weeks left to go and that wouldn't be any fun.

What they need to do is have a 3rd party in this CBA that represents the fans! "LOOK WHAT WE WANT"

Also Ivory would have made the team with or without the 4 game preMO-FO's, THIS IS -season. It is up to the coaches and camps to find talent to put on the roster. The fact he was in the pre-season games says they were on to him.

i also was in for 18 because it would kill 2 preseason games. but i saw it as giving a chance for a team that getting hot at the end to takeover a declining leader most of the year, ala the falclowns:mrgreen:

saintfan 03-10-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 288835)
What they need to do is have a 3rd party in this CBA that represents the fans! "LOOK MO-FO's, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT"

Amidst all this drama, that statement is probably the best thing I've heard. What a fantastic idea!

BIGEASY504 03-10-2011 02:31 PM

18 games is ridiculous as much as I love the game with over 300+ players out last year is too much, I really feel the quality of the game will suffer as well as the players. Hell the roster needs to be increased not games

Beastmode 03-10-2011 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 288834)
not a bad idea beast. i could be into that. i don't live around nola and i understand that a few players visit different places all over town on weeknights to meet and greet fans. i would be 1 there if i lived close. my dad went out his way back in the day to make sure my bros and i had some kind of connection to the saints players. it is a big deal as a fan.

I don't live in La. I'm about to move to PA lol! Would I go to an event for the Eagles? Yes. There is no way to possibly gets the Saints out of me other than cremation but sure, I'd pay to go check out the Eagles organization and drink a few beers in my Saints getup.

What really bother me though about this haggling is it isn't haggling. It's just both sides right now saying what they want. I really thought their would be more brainstorming for solutions. It's downright shameful because at the end of the day, the fans are what hold up the NFL anyway you look at it.

CheramieIII 03-12-2011 07:47 AM

I don't blame them for not wanting 18 games but not for the same reasons. I think that the NFL would not be as interesting and become more like NASCAR where they have 1 month off it seems like and race 1 months out of the year. That's just dumb.

Rugby Saint II 03-14-2011 06:12 PM

Most starters don't play much in the preseason.......it's time for players like Arrington and Ivory to get a shot. Maybe the preseason ticket prices should be 50% off since we spend most of the time watching backups.

9thWardDesire 03-16-2011 04:46 PM

16 game schedule and a 60-man roster (up to 53 players suited up and active). JMO.

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st thomas 03-17-2011 01:49 PM

i think all the 18 game hoop-la has come from us the fans, we just don't like exibition football. u hear it year after year. its needed yes, but why should the season ticket holder have to pay for it? 45-50 thousand guaranteed payed seats for the owners. the way i'm steamin now they can play 20. dress out 70 make everyone ante up.

skymike 03-18-2011 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 288818)
I'm with the players, as most of us are on this one. I think a win win would be to have 1 extra paying event, like a quasi bye where people pay to come to the stadium for a meet and greet of the players and staff around the the 4th or 5th game into the season with events for the kids. A portion could be donated to charity. If done right it could generate more than the revenue from a game and the positive publicity would be off the chart.

Rock on, Beastie. Thats pretty creative. Why not?
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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 288835)
I use to be for a 18 game season only if you take out 2 of the pre-season games. Now. I am against it. The reason the NFL is fun and exciting and having popularity is that EVERY GAME MATTERS! ...

Thats a good one. You dont want to turn into baseball.
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Originally Posted by BIGEASY504 (Post 288868)
18 games is ridiculous as much as I love the game with over 300+ players out last year is too much, I really feel the quality of the game will suffer as well as the players. Hell the roster needs to be increased not games

18 games would change the whole dynamic of the sport. Its a horrible idea, and I cant believe the owners arent seeing this. You'd end up with every teams bench by game 18. You'd have teams that were winning and leading, and suddenly some injuries, and they'd drop out. It would be a human Iditarod, nothing more than a ridiculous endurance race.

You cant tell me this wouldnt benefit the rich teams. The 49ers of the 80's used to push for bigger rosters, because they could afford to pay their 2nd tier players more. I dont know how it works now, but it's gotta lean toward the rich teams, if you expand the schedule.

Its like Jessica Alba getting plastic surgery. What good can come of it? why f*** with something that works?

on preseason:
-- why cant you just sell your tickets? I do it all the time. Its not that tough. There are lots of people who cant get tickets who are happy to buy em, when they're available.

-- what does it hurt? The coaches say they need it. I see it as football where you cant lose. Its foreplay to me. I love it.

-- I enjoy seeing the Ivorys and the Pierre Thomases and the Bucky Richardsons rise up from obscurity into the lineup. There's plenty to soak up in preseason for those of long-attention-span.

-- Again, why screw with the dynamics of the game? They use preseason to prepare, to test, and to evaluate. Practice is not the same as a game. If this is what works, leave it alone.

If you dont like preseason, baseball season is still on in August.

-- They used to have six preseason games.

subguy 03-18-2011 10:00 AM

I have my reasons for not wanting an 18 game season and some reasons align with the players. I think this is the only thing I agree with the players on.

Danno 03-18-2011 10:16 AM

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18 games would change the whole dynamic of the sport. Its a horrible idea, and I cant believe the owners arent seeing this. You'd end up with every teams bench by game 18. You'd have teams that were winning and leading, and suddenly some injuries, and they'd drop out. It would be a human Iditarod, nothing more than a ridiculous endurance race.
Not if the league returned to temporary IR.

Right now, if a guy is out 6 weeks with a high ankle sprain, teams are tempted to IR him. If there was a 4 or 8 week IR he could come back after it heals.

And if we had 18 games in 2010, Jenkins, Bush, PT, Ivory, and Graham might have been able to play in the playoffs.

Its possible that we would have been healthier if we had an 18 game season last year, along with a 4-8 week IR.

neugey 03-18-2011 06:13 PM

I've got it! The one person who can get negotiations back on track!


http://www.nbc.com/Deal_or_No_Deal/i...hoto_large.jpg

QBREES9 03-18-2011 10:59 PM

I say NO Too.

breesfan27 03-19-2011 01:25 AM

I was against 18 games from the start.

skymike 03-19-2011 11:38 AM

Danno, you're full O' crap.

Danno 03-19-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 290211)
Danno, you're full O' crap.

I'd say about 3/4 full, not 100%. :)

skymike 03-21-2011 06:17 AM

hahaha...
we'll be sure and purge you before putting you in the pot.

hey, at least this Texan knows to season you in the water only.

jeanpierre 03-21-2011 07:17 AM

The 18 games option probably was created as a leverage ploy to bring to the table; bottom line is that players should never have had 50% or more of the revenues - that's Socialism...

The inmates have no business running the asylum...

It would suck for us, Saints fans, but maybe it's time the players find out they are replaceable and they'll appreciate what they are earning and that they are only current stewarts of the NFL legacy...

BIGEASY504 03-21-2011 10:47 AM

18 games is hard PERIOD!!!! this shouldn't even be a topic

st thomas 03-21-2011 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGEASY504 (Post 290437)
18 games is hard PERIOD!!!! this shouldn't even be a topic

i agree bigeasy, lets play football and give the 18 game crap on next cba in 3 years

Srgt. Hulka 03-21-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by breesfan27 (Post 290182)
I was against 18 games from the start.

Me and you both Breesfan. I knew it was a ridiculous idea the first time I heard of it. I like the preseason games so we can see who and what we have, and adding two more games to the end of the regular season is just more opputunities to get the players injured. All the owners saw out of it was two more weeks of TV revenue. My idea was to leave the preseason alone, leave the regular season at a 16 game schedule, but add two more bye weeks into the season. The players are healthier and the owners still get their two more weeks of TV revenues. Everybody is happy.

skymike 03-21-2011 04:44 PM

winner!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka (Post 290452)
...add two more bye weeks into the season. ...

make it one more bye week, and you've nailed it.

I just dont know if I could do three bye weeks, (I can do it, if the rest of you can.) but I totally agree with giving the players extra time for healing and rest --- and making the season longer --- 18 weeks of football !!!!!!

slam dunk, Hulka.


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