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Saintswrath 03-31-2011 01:33 PM

Sean Payton on Role of Chris Ivory.
 
Sean Payton on Chris Ivory's potential role: "I see him as a first- to second-down strong back. I don’t necessarily see him on the field on third down. I see him in short-yardage, goal-line situations. You know, his rookie season was exceptional.

Now, the key is staying healthy."
Sports Business Journal

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BringTheWood 03-31-2011 02:29 PM

I see him straight trucking people no matter what down it is, assuming he is healthy. If he can avoid getting hurt, I saw glimpses of him being able to do everything last season, aside from blocking, he needs work on that.

saintsfan1976 03-31-2011 02:31 PM

If he can hold onto the football...

73Saint 03-31-2011 03:01 PM

Not to be a negative nelly, but what makes him so intriguing is exactly what scares me most about him...Total disregard for his body. How do you un-teach that? I love the guy, but the way he runs right through people concerns me b/c that seems to be exactly why he keeps getting hurt.

he's a human oxymoron

saintsfan1976 03-31-2011 03:34 PM

What bothers me is that he didn't do squat in college, he had fumble-itis, showed flashes of skill, then ended the season on IR.

I see him as a guy who can absolutely fulfill Payton's vision for him

IF

He can hold onto the football. And stay healthy.

Rugby Saint II 03-31-2011 05:09 PM

He'll be great in the rotation.

GeauxForMore 03-31-2011 06:22 PM

Agreed he's a rotation back. So him being healthy relies on the other backs staying healthy. Limit everyone's touches and we will get the best production from our backs.

jnormand 04-01-2011 02:59 AM

He was fun to watch when he played. Love to see backs running thru people.

SapperSaint 04-01-2011 01:34 PM

this is why if Ingram is available in the 1st round.... I say we take him.

If we have too, I say we offer Devery or who ever as trade bait to get him.

I really feel he is the RB we need. We need to stop all of this, picking guys up off the street that "MAY" have a little something left in the tank, crap.

BringTheWood 04-01-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 292335)
this is why if Ingram is available in the 1st round.... I say we take him.

If we have too, I say we offer Devery or who ever as trade bait to get him.

I really feel he is the RB we need. We need to stop all of this, picking guys up off the street that "MAY" have a little something left in the tank, crap.

I have to disagree. Our RBs will be healthy, and between the 4 of them, including Lynell I think we can do good things. Our defense was clearly the weak link. We had no trouble scoring points, we had trouble stopping them.

Danno 04-01-2011 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BringTheWood (Post 292341)
Our defense was clearly the weak link. We had no trouble scoring points, we had trouble stopping them.

We were ranked 11th best in offensive points scored per game

We were ranked 7th best in defensive points given up per game

SAINT_MICHAEL 04-01-2011 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BringTheWood (Post 292341)
Our RBs will be healthy, and between the 4 of them, including Lynell I think we can do good things. Our defense was clearly the weak link. We had no trouble scoring points, we had trouble stopping them.

I'm curious, what makes you think our RBs will be healthy this year? Do you see them getting tougher than they have been the past three seasons? Do you see other team's defenses getting weaker? Based on their historical records, the RBs being healthy this year is as likely as the Saints being able to draft Patrick Peterson with the 24th pick. The fact is this group of RBs has NEVER had a season where they didn't all miss games. Counting on it to be otherwise is a wish. Do you realize the last RB the team had suit up for all 16 games was Aaron Stecker in 2007?

I know that the defense wasn't stellar, but what about the 4th and 1 we couldn't convert in the playoff game against Seattle? What about the fact that the team was ranked 28th in the league in rushing yards per game and 24th in rushing TDs per game?

Look, I'm not saying the D doesn't need help, but it seems like many people are looking back on the feel good story of the undrafted Thomas and how he helped the team win it all and thinking it's going to happen again. Take off the rose colored glasses people! This isn't a re-run of Rudy! Being able to run the ball when you need to (and when the other team knows you need to) is very important in football. Quit nickle-and-diming the position and get a real RB!

SaintPauly 04-02-2011 04:36 PM

I think if Ingram is there at 24, you gotta take him. I don't see him lasting that long, but that would be ludicrous to pass him up. Ingram, Bush, Ivory, and Thomas? Are you freaking kidding me?

Danno 04-02-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 292490)
Ingram over a stud OLB?...naw i will take P.T ..Bush Ivory and a good back in the later rounds..

Well Strat it all comes down to value.

If the front office feels there's not much difference between OLB#3 and OLB# 12, but Ingram is a top 10 talent, of course you take Ingram over a LB.

Conversely, if there's an OLB with an equal garde as Ingram, you take the LB.

It all depends on the Saints draft board. I personally feel that IF INGRAM SLIPS, he'll likely have a much higher grade than any other player when we pick.

Danno 04-02-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 292511)
OLB or bust

So you'd prefer a LB with a 3rd round grade over a stud 1st round RB?

jeanpierre 04-02-2011 07:08 PM

We need another RB; but not at the expense of a R1 pick.

First Round Picks, if a franchise is to be successful, must play 8-10 years for that franchise or get equal value in a trade.

Running backs with very, very few exceptions, only last 5-6 years nowadays...

Ingram is a good back; while he won't be there, the earliest I'd pick 'em is in late Round 2...

SapperSaint 04-02-2011 10:19 PM

Ivory has a history of being injured.

Reggie has a history of being injured.

PT..... well, I just don't believe the sprained ankle deal

I don't know guys and gals. I for one am tired of us running out of running backs; and then we go and shop for has-beens. JMO, my brothers and sisters.

SmashMouth 04-03-2011 06:24 PM

This dude was available to us a few years back ...
Clay Matthews, LB for the Green Bay Packers at NFL.com
We sure could use a guy like that if he were available at 24.

QBREES9 04-03-2011 09:56 PM

He'll be a great one

saintsfan1976 04-03-2011 09:58 PM

Still need another RB

st thomas 04-04-2011 10:17 AM

the 24 th pick in the 2011 draft is----- corey luiget, ill. why not if all others are gone. could we give our 2nd round pick and swap 1st rounders with buffalo for von miller, is that to risky?


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