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I read what everyone said and all I can say is that I want him on the team. Reason why, Sean Payton wants him on the team and that all I need. You can argue stats and everything (in my view his stats suck), but if SP believe in him. I got to too. Who Dat!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 299432)

You tell me :p...J/K..dont get all bent bro...just pop a cold one..all that fact diggin got to make you thirsty..

I got it all copied into an outlook draft. Its a simple copy/paste.

But I'll probably pop a cold one anyway. I'll drink one for you too.:D

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Originally Posted by GeauxForMore (Post 299434)

Yet Payton seems to use him less and less, even when healthy.

I think Payton knows Reggie isn't all that good, but he's probably better than some 5th RB we'd carry.

Here I'll settle it...

Reggie is neither a good nor bad punt returner, he's just average...which sounds about right. Given his average yard per return numbers and his tendancy to muff punts, he's replaceable not only in the back field... but as a returner too. While many be at the edge of their seats when the ball is coming his way, I cringe.

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 299439)

Pretty much settles it, well except for the average part. He's a bit worse than average, but I'll ease up on the apologists for a while, they get their feelings hurt too easily.

They're probably watching way too much Housewives of <insert location here> episodes. ;)

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 299440)

I'll have you know I don't watch that show...but this year I am guilty of watching American Idol, and yes, I am ashamed... :(

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 299449)

I'll have you know I don't watch that show...but this year I am guilty of watching American Idol, and yes, I am ashamed... :(

Fear not fellow former-man, I too was roped into that by my adorable 10 year old daughter.

Sometimes we have to take a pointy-toed boot shot right to the jewels for the betterment of man-kind, errr... I mean person-kind.

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 299452)

I avoided it for a decade, but I tuned in to see what Steven Tyler had to say...it was anti-climactic for sure, but that one kid...what's his name <looking it up now>...one sec...

James Durbin

Yeah. That kid can rock. I hope he wins...

/hijack

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 299416)

I don't hate Reggie.

7.8 is bad for a punt returner (would rank 23rd in 2010). Why do you keep insisting that it isn't? 23rd out of 32 teams is bad. Our own Lance Moore has a better career average as a Saint than Reggie does, by almost an entire yard.

To suggest that Reggie isn't a bad returner is factually wrong wrong wrong IMO and backed up by facts.

As far as TD's go, 3 of his 4 TD's were all in 2008, and two were against the same team. Sorry, not impressed at all.

In 2008 he was GREAT, no question and anyone who says otherwise is foolish, but this leauge isn't about what you did 3 seasons ago, its about now.

But I'm sure he'll break a long one next year to go along with numerous bad ones (and a few fumbles) and the Reggie apologists will be in love with him all over again.

I'll leave it at this, Jim Henderson said it best...

Thats Jim Henderson, and he's certainly no Bush hater either.

Why do you keep ignoring evidence and logic. I look up all my statistics. You apparently do not. He's 23rd AMONG PUNT RETURNERS, not among NFL TEAMS. Can you get it through your thick head that each team can have more than one punt returner?

And actually, he has had a total of FIVE punt returns for touchdowns. If you include the playoff game. And it doesn't freaking matter if all three of them happened during one season. Does. Not. Change. Anything. Not. One. Thing.

There is no way on this earth you can say that someone who has five punt returns for touchdowns and someone who ranks 23rd out of hundreds of punt returners is a bad punt returner. You are just being disagreeable to be disagreeable. Therefore you are annoying.

And I'm not a Bush apologist. I know he's not the best running back on the team. I just hate it when people make sh*t up or ignore the facts.

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 299426)

Not quite following that one.

Are you saying that because I don't think Reggie is nearly as good as some claim, and I back it up with fact after fact after fact, that somehow I have "issues" with Reggie Bush and I'm stuck on tearing him down?

The only issues I have with Reggie are on the field during the games.

Care to elaborate? Because if I'm reading you correctly it sounds like an insult.

And WTF is up with the Downo comments Strat?

Your problem is that you are selectively picking which data you like and ignoring the rest. You also stated that 2009 wasn't a great year for Bush. Well, we had a three-running back rotation that year and Bush did get well over 5 yards per carry, which is awesome - along with 8 touchdowns. That is great production from a back who is part of an equal three-back rotation. Why are you so obsessed with hating Reggie Bush?