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Old 05-13-2011, 03:59 PM   #1
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The Bucs apparently passed on Cam Jordan

The Bucs reportedly passed on Cam Jordan at the No. 20 pick in the draft because they questioned his pass-rush ability.

The Bucs "had doubts" that Jordan could ever be more than a "five- or six-sack per season guy," and were more confident in Adrian Clayborn's long-term upside as a pass rusher. In a 4-3 defense like the Bucs, Jordan projected as only a strong-side defensive end, possibly with the ability to move inside on nickel downs. He never topped 5.5 sacks in a college season.

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Old 05-13-2011, 04:12 PM   #2
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I agree with their assessment... but up the sack range to 6-8. Jordan is more of a complete DE... not a pure pass rusher. He does not bail out on the run to chase the quarterback kamikaze style all over the field. With his size, athleticism, and our attack style defense, a ten sack season here or there is more than possible. Think a more athletic Charles Grant... when he was actually good.
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I agree with their assessment... but up the sack range to 6-8. Jordan is more of a complete DE... not a pure pass rusher. He does not bail out on the run to chase the quarterback kamikaze style all over the field. With his size, athleticism, and our attack style defense, a ten sack season here or there is more than possible. Think a more athletic Charles Grant... when he was actually good.
I think he's a prototypical LDE that can stuff the run and pressure the QB.

He is exactly what we hoped Charles Grant would be.

Another note, he played DE in a 3-4 at Cal, and 3-4 DE's never get high sack totals. I look for his sacks to increase quite a bit in our 4-3. I can see him as a consistent 8-10 sack guy with Ellis and Rogers in the middle and Smith on the end, as well as a solid DE against the run.

Clayborn may be a better pass rusher, but I think Jordan is the better player.
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Another note, he played DE in a 3-4 at Cal, and 3-4 DE's never get high sack totals.
Very good point and I definitely agree with Jordan being the more complete player. You could understand why the Bucs went with Clayborn knowing that they're going to face Brees/Ryan 2 maybe 3 times a year. Both teams got exactly what they needed.
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not to be debbie downer but why wouldnt you want 2 ends that can rush the passer? Will smith plays the run well and rushes the passer. Im really not that crazy about Cam but who am i.
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with that being said...i hope these defensive picks pan out because i can see us having to draft offense in the next couple drafts. we need a center, probably another tackle, and the way our receivers are getting surgeries every off season we will need that too
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not to be debbie downer but why wouldnt you want 2 ends that can rush the passer? Will smith plays the run well and rushes the passer. Im really not that crazy about Cam but who am i.
I don't see how your comment would rain on anyone's parade... so I'm a little lost here.

with that being said...i hope these defensive picks pan out because i can see us having to draft offense in the next couple drafts. we need a center, probably another tackle, and the way our receivers are getting surgeries every off season we will need that too
Just remember we drafted Tennant a year ago to develop him into our center of the future. Goodwin has a couple of good years left in him also. Charles Brown was also taken to develop into an eventual starter. Receivers in our offense are a dime a dozen. Our two most productive receivers was a 7th round pick and a UDFA.
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Cameron Jordan now has his chance to show the Bucs that they made a huge mistake by passing on him then, use it as motivation and slam all other NFC south QB's into the ground!
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:40 AM   #9
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The Bucs reportedly passed on Cam Jordan at the No. 20 pick in the draft...
I'm sure that's fine with him. He probably didn't want to go to the Bucs anyway...would you?
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I don't think we drafted him to pass rush anyway.

I think Greg Williams was pissed we didn't seem to be able to stop the run when he wanted to. So getting some run stuffers on running downs was important and not only that if he can cause some disruptions on the line it will create an open lane for a speedster LB or DB to blitz
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