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Old 05-17-2011, 10:10 AM   #11
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NEXT TO COLSTON HE'S THE MOST PRODUCTIVE WR WE HAVE.
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Tremendous hands, yes. But he is ALSO the best "route-runner" on this team.

When Payton game-plans for Lance, he always has a huge game. IMO, the guy seems to be the most in sync WR with Drew.
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:45 PM   #13
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NEXT TO COLSTON HE'S THE MOST PRODUCTIVE WR WE HAVE.
He's even "Moore" productive than Colston when you look at his percentages. I don't know where the numbers can be found, but I can guarantee Moore has more 3rd down conversions, better completion percentage, fewer drops, and touchdown per attempt percentage. Moore is probably Brees favorite target but he's too smart to say it; neither would it be PO-correct to say it. Moore gets the best separation and can get open more effectively than the rest and will make the necessary adjustment to make the catch.
Year after year I've watched them string Lance Moore along: after he lead the team when Colston was out, after the camp torn bicept the SB season, and now a solid #2 without playing every down. He even helped with special teams when Roby went down - much more dependable back there than Reggie. If he ends up unrestricted, we may have to watch him walk. I, for one, would be very disappointed if that happens. If he's still restricted with a 2nd round tender, we need to work a 4 year deal and give him his money...He's earned it. I dread the possibility of us scratching our heads mid-season trying to figure out why certain things aren't working in the offense anymoore. Lance is special in moore ways than one. The front office needs to make this one happen.

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lance stays devery walks or gets traded
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This is a great site that ranks players based on numerous categories.

We have 3 in the top 20, Devery is 67th

RECEIVING: Minimum 50 passes, 85 players ranked
Player Team DYAR Rk YAR Rk DVOA Rk VOA Passes Yards EYds TD Catch Rate FUM
1. M.Wallace PIT 457 1 444 1 48.8% 1 47.1% 98 1257 1,279 10 61% 1
2. B.Lloyd DEN 414 2 401 2 20.0% 6 19.0% 152 1448 1,641 11 51% 0
3. G.Jennings GB 330 3 329 3 19.6% 7 19.6% 125 1265 1,317 12 61% 2
4. R.White ATL 294 4 291 6 8.3% 28 8.1% 180 1392 1,577 10 64% 1
5. A.Johnson HOU 284 5 245 11 13.2% 15 9.6% 139 1215 1,314 8 63% 1
6. H.Nicks NYG 276 6 301 4 14.6% 11 17.0% 128 1052 1,233 11 62% 1
7. C.Johnson DET 258 7 242 13 11.2% 20 9.8% 138 1122 1,260 12 57% 1
8. D.Bowe KC 255 8 294 5 11.9% 18 15.6% 133 1162 1,224 15 54% 1
9. K.Britt TEN 252 9 253 8 28.5% 2 28.7% 73 775 869 9 58% 1
10. J.Maclin PHI 251 10 246 10 15.5% 8 14.9% 115 964 1,097 10 61% 1
11. D.Branch NE 246 11 222 15 20.5% 5 17.2% 92 818 969 6 66% 1
12. S.Johnson BUF 236 12 214 18 8.7% 26 6.6% 142 1073 1,250 10 58% 1
13. M.Austin DAL 236 13 245 12 12.2% 17 13.1% 119 1047 1,120 7 58% 1
14. A.Collie IND 231 14 261 7 28.4% 3 33.7% 71 649 799 8 82% 1
15. M.Colston NO 220 15 247 9 8.6% 27 11.2% 132 1023 1,168 7 64% 0 16. D.Mason BAL 216 16 224 14 13.5% 14 14.5% 100 802 989 7 61% 0
17. J.Knox CHI 207 17 201 20 14.7% 9 13.9% 100 964 904 5 51% 1
18. L.Moore NO 205 18 218 17 14.6% 10 16.3% 94 763 914 8 70% 1
19. R.Meachem NO 187 19 190 21 22.7% 4 23.3% 66 638 708 5 67% 0

20. M.Manningham NYG 187 20 213 19 12.4% 16 15.9% 92 944 883 9 65% 1

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if you could give him a 9 jersey while he's drinking the beer you woulda had me at hello like Jerry Mcguire!!!!
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He's even "Moore" productive than Colston when you look at his percentages. I don't know where the numbers can be found, but I can guarantee Moore has more 3rd down conversions, better completion percentage, fewer drops, and touchdown per attempt percentage. Moore is probably Brees favorite target but he's too smart to say it; neither would it be PO-correct to say it. Moore gets the best separation and can get open more effectively than the rest and will make the necessary adjustment to make the catch.
Year after year I've watched them string Lance Moore along: after he lead the team when Colston was out, after the camp torn bicept the SB season, and now a solid #2 without playing every down. He even helped with special teams when Roby went down - much more dependable back there than Reggie. If he ends up unrestricted, we may have to watch him walk. I, for one, would be very disappointed if that happens. If he's still restricted with a 2nd round tender, we need to work a 4 year deal and give him his money...He's earned it. I dread the possibility of us scratching our heads mid-season trying to figure out why certain things aren't working in the offense anymoore. Lance is special in moore ways than one. The front office needs to make this one happen.
Couldn't have worded it better if I tried.

He has earned his contract, Period. Every other reciever has had some type issue dropping balls except Lance. I went to the scrimmage just before the start of training camp here in Houston before the 09 season. You woulda thought Brees and Lance were 10 and 11 in age because team practice ends, then organized scrimmage ends. Then Drew and Lance still out there working. It's no way they don't get a big time deal done. Certain people can be replaced and then certain people you just have to admit that they are not easily replaceable.
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Old 05-18-2011, 07:38 AM   #18
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I agree dizzle. Last year who did Brees look to when he needed a play? Moore. Moore is consistent and hardly ever drops a ball. It's going to be hard with as many free agents that we have and only so much money to go around.
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You can't coach great hands and there is no doubt that Moore has great hands.

You can coach bad hands to decent. You can coach decent hands to pretty good. But you can't coach good hands to great hands.

This is because you have to have special coordination between the feet, body, arms, eyes and cat like depth preception. Only God can coach that. I'm sure Lance has been catching the ball like that since he was 10.

It's kind of like some of us can be taught to sing fairly good but how many can you coach up to be great?

The great ones make it looks simple. You either have it or you don't.


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