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WhoDat!656 05-28-2011 05:10 PM

Question for the Forum
 
Is Reggie Bush's lack of consistent production, mainly as a RB, due to:

A. Reggie himself, not reading defenses properly, trying to run up the middle instead of getting to the outside, or vice-versa;

B. Reggie still thinking, after 4 years in the league, that he can out-run an NFL LB/DB;

C. Reggie not taking a sure 3-4 gain, but trying to do too much and losing yards;

D.Reggie is not being used properly by Payton.

Beastmode 05-28-2011 06:01 PM

I'd go with C. He's always swinging for the fence. Early on, he had a fair amount of success with that approach and I think it would have continued if not for the injury down time last year. He could probably be a more consistent RB if he would take what is given but what's the fun in that when at any given time, with a good block, or a little space he's gone.

bigmacster 05-28-2011 06:07 PM

I will also go with C. Beastmode pretty much sums it up.

Rugby Saint II 05-28-2011 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bigmacster (Post 302074)
I will also go with C. Beastmode pretty much sums it up.

Oh yeah:bng:

Danno 05-29-2011 07:51 AM

E. He just isn't that good

dizzle88 05-29-2011 09:05 AM

F. Who Cares, we have Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory now

foreverfan 05-29-2011 09:11 AM


Saintsfan4ever 05-29-2011 11:33 AM

None of the above. (imo)
While some of those points listed are at least partially true, Bush's main lack of production has been his inability to stay healthy.
The 2006 season was his most productive over-all season in which he played all 16 regular season games. Since then, he's either playing with an injury or coming back from an injury.


St.4

SaintFanQ 05-29-2011 01:03 PM

I would say "C".

Reason being that when he first tried this, he got away with it because defences hadn't sussed him out, but now they almost expect him to try and go for big yardage every time, so they call a play to lock him up so he gets little yardage or, as was stated in the question, actually runs for a loss!

Still like to watch him play though and he has had some great moments for us in the past, so I hope he stays healthy and stays a Saint!

Danno 05-29-2011 01:16 PM

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A. Reggie himself, not reading defenses properly, trying to run up the middle instead of getting to the outside, or vice-versa;
He does have lousy vision, but I’ve never seen him choose up the middle over trying to bust it outside

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B. Reggie still thinking, after 4 years in the league, that he can out-run an NFL LB/DB;
Perhaps part of the problem, he’s not nearly as fast as he thinks he is.

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C. Reggie not taking a sure 3-4 gain, but trying to do too much and losing yards;
Again, lack of vision. The 3-4 yard loss by retreating is obvious to most RB’s with good vision. I think he’s scared of contact and it forces him backwards to avoid it.

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D.Reggie is not being used properly by Payton.
Payton has tried every way possible. Lets face it, Reggie just isn’t that good. If he played for any other coach he’d be virtually insignificant.
Oh wait, he already is.

foreverfan 05-29-2011 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 302129)
He does have lousy vision, but I’ve never seen him choose up the middle over trying to bust it outside



Perhaps part of the problem, he’s not nearly as fast as he thinks he is.



Again, lack of vision. The 3-4 yard loss by retreating is obvious to most RB’s with good vision. I think he’s scared of contact and it forces him backwards to avoid it.



Payton has tried every way possible. Lets face it, Reggie just isn’t that good. If he played for any other coach he’d be virtually insignificant.
Oh wait, he already is.

ABC... Simple as 1...2...3...

Srgt. Hulka 06-03-2011 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 302129)
I think he’s scared of contact and it forces him backwards to avoid it.

Of course he's scared of contact. If you got injured on every play, wouldn't you be scared of contact too?

jnormand 06-05-2011 03:36 AM

Drew Brees and I are good friends and have talked about this. We believe....ok I'm kidding! I'm not friends with Drew!

In reality I have little to add to this post. But I do think some of his inconsistency is due to injury and some is due to trying to do too much and not taking what defenses give him.

CheramieIII 06-05-2011 09:36 AM

I would agree it's C. He's always trying to hit a homerun when sometimes all we need is a single or double.

the-commish 06-05-2011 09:42 AM

I am going to go with "C." He tries to out juke defenders instead of taking what's there. Not every play can go all the way.

That may work in college, but NFL players are far more savvy (pros get paid above the table, as opposed to college players getting paid under the table--smirk).


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