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BillyC 12-14-2003 09:40 PM

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I just don't have the words........ :D


Maybe the WhoTang clan can help me out?? :o

CP/AT YDS TD INT
A. Brooks 22/31 253 4 0

Still 7:34 left in the 3rd quarter!!

-RVD- 12-14-2003 09:43 PM

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I believe it\'s safe to say...



AARON BROOKS IS ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!!! :o

[Edited on 15/12/2003 by -RVD-]

JKool 12-14-2003 09:47 PM

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Payback for the Colts game!?!

Br :cool: :cool: ks!

I wonder what we\'ll have to say this week? Perhaps this game is just an anomally, but looks like a Haz\' team that may not lose all its December games? I hope they keep this up!!!!!!

Cheers.

JKool 12-14-2003 09:49 PM

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What a treat for beleaguered fans and for our boys!!!

Keep it up!

BillyC 12-14-2003 09:52 PM

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Now, JKool. You know it\'s a well known fact that because we lost in December in the past that we can\'t win in December. You\'re not even watching this game. It\'s all a dream. LMAO..... :D

JKool 12-14-2003 09:53 PM

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Billy, don\'t wake me up!

JKool 12-14-2003 09:54 PM

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P.S. We cannot win in December, I totally forgot. My bad.

P.P.S. I\'m sure we\'ll catch flack for this BS, don\'t you think?

BillyC 12-14-2003 10:11 PM

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Quote:

P.S. We cannot win in December, I totally forgot. My bad.

P.P.S. I\'m sure we\'ll catch flack for this BS, don\'t you think?

LOL......Not as much flack as the Brooks\' bashers will catch. From me anyway. They have well earned it!!!

BrooksMustGo 12-14-2003 10:12 PM

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It looks like we\'re pouring out a can on the pathetic Giants.

Evidently this is Brooks hot week. But even at that, I\'m happy for season ticket holders, they deserve to see a game like this more regularly than they get to.

BillyC 12-14-2003 10:31 PM

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Read \'em and weap boys... Looks like Haz lit a fire under Brooks!!



CP/AT YDS TD INT
A. Brooks 26/35 296 5 0

saint5221 12-14-2003 10:33 PM

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Well Brooks did get benched. Just not for the reason everyone thought it would be for. Hell of a game, glad to see it, need to keep it going.

PSno23 12-14-2003 10:37 PM

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I think Haz should threaten to pull Brooks in the game every week. This was definately the confidence booster that he needed. On the subject of Horn, the cell phone may have been a bit much, but I really don\'t think its as bad as they were making it out to be. He had a great game and proved how vital he is to this team. Great win!

saintz08 12-14-2003 11:06 PM

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P.S. We cannot win in December, I totally forgot.
I think the point of the December no win scenario is they lose when they only need one win to make the play offs 2 years in a row .Those loses are usually against the cellar dwellers like the Giants currently are .

It is a little different to control your own play off destiny or to play and pray like they are currently doing .

JKool 12-15-2003 02:20 AM

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Agreed 08!

Last season\'s meltdown was completely unacceptable.

However, the point I was alluding to is this: there are some here who have affirmed that under Haz, there is no way we can win in December. He just doesn\'t have it in him to motivate a team for an entire season; they burn out. Well, it seems to me that this claim has been shown to be false. Granted, when our boys win the next two weeks ( ;) ), this will just be additional nails in the coffin of that ridiculous theory.

Furthermore, last year we couldn\'t beat the sucky teams. Today, we did. Again, evidence that claims that there is some sort of trend established about December are not entirely correct.

saintz08 12-15-2003 02:53 AM

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JKool

Quote:

However, the point I was alluding to is this: there are some here who have affirmed that under Haz, there is no way we can win in December.
If a December win is all you wanted you should have done some research , here you go .

12/2/2001 panthers 23 saints 27
12/9/2001 saints 28 falcons 10

The much alluded to December collapse has been about the head coaching ability to keep the team focused in the final December push .

It is about keeping the focus too control the play off destiny , rather then play and pray for help like they are currently doing .

Quote:

Granted, when our boys win the next two weeks ( ), this will just be additional nails in the coffin of that ridiculous theory.
If you started driving nails you had better get a crowbar , cause you are gonna be pulling some out .

JKool 12-15-2003 11:13 AM

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Qutie right 08!

Thanks for the reminder, sometimes I get a bit too excited.

However, I do think this game makes a point against the December Swoon people, and your evidence is only additional to that point. The December Swoon is not a single event, but it is feature of our collapse. Sadly, I don\'t think the Swoon has been described properly enough for me to believe in it. We do win games in December, and this time we didn\'t just win, we played to expectations (or better).

seraph33 12-15-2003 03:04 PM

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I\'m not sold yet. One game doesn\'t break a player and surely one game doesn\'t make a player. Kudos to AB, way to bounce back after last week\'s horrible performance. Still I would like to see consistency from him. If he can pull out positive performance for the span of a couple of week, then i will start to change my stance. Still I can\'t help but feel that AB has a sort of Karma. Seems to me for every good game there is a bad and for every great game, a horrible one. Too me he still has a lot to prove. Great performance. If he produce some positive performances over the last couple of weeks, then we will see.

DblBogey 12-15-2003 04:46 PM

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I finally met that Brooks guy yesterday that BC has been talking seemingly forever. The Brooks yesterday is not the same Brooks from the previous 14 games. Yesterday is what pro bowlers and hall of famers are made of.

WhoDat 12-15-2003 07:31 PM

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Actually, I said that Jim can\'t put it together for a whole season, and even if we win out I\'ll still be right. Wanna know why? B/c we STARTED 1-4!! You don\'t go very far in the NFL when you go 1-3 or 1-4 through any 4 or 5 games. I also said last week that we would win out and win convincingly. Know why? B/c last week\'s loss closed every door to the playoffs except for the \"mathematical\" one. Of course they\'re going to win out and win convincingly. What else do you expect? Jim Haslett and AB have to come back next season right? How else will we be able to go 9-7 and end up one game out of the playoffs?

JKool 12-16-2003 01:16 AM

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WhoDat,

My point wasn\'t directed at you, as I do remember you saying exactly that - Haz can\'t keep \'em up for the whole season. It was actually someone else (actually, if you look closely, it was several people) who said that Haz can\'t win in December, no matter what.

As for the rest of the post, I\'m not sure what to say about that. Is it your view that the team will win big now that it doesn\'t matter? That seems odd. Why would a team play better (and win bigger) when nothing is on the line? I guess I just don\'t see the causal connection. I would think a demoralized, unmotivated team would lose out, rather than win out.

BillyC 12-16-2003 01:39 AM

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WhoDat,

My point wasn\'t directed at you, as I do remember you saying exactly that - Haz can\'t keep \'em up for the whole season. It was actually someone else (actually, if you look closely, it was several people) who said that Haz can\'t win in December, no matter what.

As for the rest of the post, I\'m not sure what to say about that. Is it your view that the team will win big now that it doesn\'t matter? That seems odd. Why would a team play better (and win bigger) when nothing is on the line? I guess I just don\'t see the causal connection. I would think a demoralized, unmotivated team would lose out, rather than win out.
How anyone can believe that the month of December has ANYTHING to do with us winning games is beyond me. That makes about as much sense as a black cat bringing bad luck. Some folks are so hell bent with the negitivity that they convince themselves of ANYTHING. Now, that argument has been disproved, they claim that the Saints can only win in December when nothing is on the line. It\'s all negitive and it reflects their personaltiy and the way they feel about the current coaches and players.

Now I\'m suppose to believe that the Saints will win out and win big because there is nothing left to play for? Yeah Ok.


WhoDat 12-16-2003 06:52 AM

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No, I\'m saying welcome to New Orleans guys. Of course the Saints will win big. They\'ll do it to give you hope. They\'ll do it b/c the one thing this team needs is a coaching change, and thus, in typical NO style they\'ll do just enough to allow their coach to stay and nothing will change.

Listen, You two were blasting the coaches up until 7:00 on Sunday. I know Billy said he thinks Haslett needs to be fired. Now, one big game and have you two changed your minds? What if they win like that next week, and the next? Will you want Haslett to stay then? My guess is yes, even though those big wins won\'t have meant anything when the season is over an done with. If the Saints had lost out would you feel differently? Of couse. So my point is - the one big thing this team needs to really get better is a new coach. But as we all know, this team never does the things it needs to to get better - which is why I said I thought they would win out. Now Haslett will stay and things won\'t chnage very much if at all.

JKool 12-16-2003 03:27 PM

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WhoDat,

I\'m with you on the need for a coaching change. I haven\'t changed my mind on that.. yet. I was merely observing that the argument, which you weren\'t making, that Haz cannot win in December - AND that is a good reason to get rid of him - is not a good argument.

I\'m still not sure what to think about the idea you seem to be advancing, namely that our boys will win BECAUSE either 1. it doesn\'t matter any more or 2. so we will not get a new coach. Is the missing premise this: the Saints necessarily do things that will cause our hearts to be broken at the end of each season? Of course, that would make the following make some sense: 1. one way to break our heart next year, which our boys must do, is to retain our current coach, 2. winning will retain our coach, therefore, 3. we will win out.

blake6900 12-17-2003 11:55 AM

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A mighty triumph against a team that\'s won how many games?!

Any quarterback in the NFL, given enough time, should be able to find the open receiver and throw a catchable pass to him...even Aaron Brooks. No one I\'m aware of ever said AB doesn\'t possess great raw talent. His problems arise when he\'s forced to deal with a pass rush...except, of course, when the ball simply gets a mind of its\' own and jumps out of his hand.

He still has a problem with mental errors...something\'s not right when the third wide receiver can see that the play clock is running out and must call time because the QB apparently has very little situational awareness. Or the QB looks over the defense, doesn\'t like what he sees, calls an audible, then calls time out, talks it over with the coaching staff, goes back out onto the field, looks over the defense, doesn\'t like what he sees, calls an audible, then lets the play clock run out. This happened, in that order, all on one play...and this kind of thing happens with Brooks game in and game out. There\'s no excuse for it.

I really wish I was wrong about him...but I\'m not...at least, not yet. But I\'m hopeful.

deadflatbird 12-17-2003 07:26 PM

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also the differece was that there were more deep balls thrown... Brooks has a horrible problem throwing the short ones and not seeing the LB\'s sitting in the balls path.

Cassady37 12-18-2003 08:02 AM

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This whole scenario would be a mute point had New Orleans taken care of business against the Bucs but as usual the game we REALLY needed to be focused on slipped through our fingers again. Big deal we blew the Giants out of the water, after Dallas dismantles them this week we\'re right back where we\'ve been the past two years. Wondering why this coaching staff can\'t prepare this team to win before desperation sets in. I\'m glad A.B and Horn have a lovey-dovey relationship now, it\'s just too bad when the we needed these over-paid crybabies they weren\'t there for us. I, for once, want o feel good about half way through the season about where we are for the future. Not wondering what is going to happen that this team cannot sustain life consistantly in the NFL playoff picture.

WhoDat 12-18-2003 02:12 PM

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Great post Cassady, and exactly the way I feel.

Haslett cannot do it for a whole season. Go read Billy\'s interesting stats thread - it says it all. In essence, despite having all kinds of talent and being in the tops in the league in a slew of categories the coaching staff cannot put it all together. You don\'t get to the playoffs by not beating a winning team all year. Sorry.


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