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WhoDat!656 07-07-2011 11:34 AM

Brees catching some flak from retired players
 
Retired players’ complaint takes aim at Drew Brees | ProFootballTalk

papz 07-07-2011 01:17 PM

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There’s some guys out there that have made bad business decisions. They took their pensions early because they never went out and got a job. They’ve had a couple divorces and they’re making payments to this place and that place. And that’s why they don’t have money. And they’re coming to us to basically say, ‘Please make up for my bad judgment.’” The retired players claim that this quote constitutes “antipathy for NFL retirees” from Brees.
Ouch lol! Hit 'em where it hurts why don't you Drew.

The truth sucks don't it? That's what happens when you have 9 kids from 8 different women, drive Bentley's you don't need or can afford, live in million dollar mansions with no one in it but yourself, have 100k earrings that make you look retarded, so on and so forth. The smart retired players saved up, invested, took into coaching, became analyst, etc. It's not their fault you blew all your money on hookers and blow... you get the point.

Danno 07-07-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 307454)
Ouch lol! Hit 'em where it hurts why don't you Drew.

The truth sucks don't it? That's what happens when you have 9 kids from 8 different women, drive Bentley's you don't need or can afford, live in million dollar mansions with no one in it but yourself, have 100k earrings that make you look retarded, so on and so forth. The smart retired players saved up, invested, took into coaching, became analyst, etc. It's not their fault you blew all your money on hookers and blow... you get the point.

You can't protect stupid, and you definitely shouldn't be forced to compensate it.

Crusader 07-07-2011 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 307454)
Ouch lol! Hit 'em where it hurts why don't you Drew.

The truth sucks don't it? That's what happens when you have 9 kids from 8 different women, drive Bentley's you don't need or can afford, live in million dollar mansions with no one in it but yourself, have 100k earrings that make you look retarded, so on and so forth. The smart retired players saved up, invested, took into coaching, became analyst, etc. It's not their fault you blew all your money on hookers and blow... you get the point.

Wel thats really the recent retirees that actually had that kinda money they coulkd spend. But if you talk about the old players who are 60-70 years old now, they didn't earn a whole lot of money most of them and NFL back then was a lot more violent and surgeries they got at the time was a lot worse.

Danno 07-07-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 307461)
Wel thats really the recent retirees that actually had that kinda money they coulkd spend. But if you talk about the old players who are 60-70 years old now, they didn't earn a whole lot of money most of them and NFL back then was a lot more violent and surgeries they got at the time was a lot worse.

Who forced them to play?

papz 07-07-2011 01:50 PM

I've said from the beginning of the lockout that pensions should be increased and health insurance(in some form) given to retired players... especially in those instances. I'm just pointing out how some of these dumb decisions they make come back and haunt them.

The league typically provide all sorts of programs to help them deal with life after football. A lot of these players don't take advantage of them and just sit on their money until it all runs dry. Just because they retired at 30 doesn't make them handicapped. Welcome to the real world and get a job.

Crusader 07-07-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 307464)
Who forced them to play?

Most likly nobody but look for example on head injuries, back then nobody knew the long term effects. I think it would be allright for the NFL to help the old timers that had 18 surgeries on knees and hips and played for a couple of years.

But say you are 35 and wasted all your mone NEWSFLASH BUDDY you have a great college education unless you were really stupid and didn't take it serious while in school and then you don't deserve any help.

SapperSaint 07-07-2011 03:22 PM

Here is my two cents..

If you retire from the Army as an E7...everytime a pay raise happens, your base pay in retire matches that of the current pay scale.

Now, I understand that the "Ole Timers" didn't have the contracts that the newer guys have had. But if these guys haven't had a job since they retired....then that's their fault. Now before anyone says I'm a heartless pig. Hear me out.

The NFL needs to come up with a "Tri-Care" type of insurance. If you do 20 years in the military, you have it for life. Now, I understand that anyone that performs 20 years in the NFL is like finding a unicorn. (Favre is the exeption). I say 5-10-15-20 years in the NFL gets you "So much" coverage. The more years you play, the lower your cost is. If you have a player that does less than 5 years, he has the option to pay for the insurance.

Injured players. If you have a career ending injury due to football.... you have coverage for life.

The NFL should set this up like the Veterans Affairs. Vets are paid on a percentage as well as thier medical coverage. It can't be that hard.

Now, for those gucci players that blantly pissed their money away. If the NFL proves this is the case, "Oh well", we put your butt through the NFL Rookie Symposium and WE TOLD YOU THEN.....DON"T BLOW YOUR MONEY!!!!!! DON'T GET 10 WOMEN PREGNANT AND HAVE 12 KIDS!!!! DON'T OWN 32 BENTLEYS WITH 45" WHEELS!!!!!!

I have no sympothy for those types of guys who blow their money and when it is gone they look to others as if to say, "Give me more because I screwed up". Yes, I'm am refering to the NFL Player and not the general public who do the exact same thing to the working people of America.

The NFL as a whole makes enough money in 10 years to take care of this program for 50 years. Why has this never been started?

73Saint 07-07-2011 03:42 PM

Sapper, I like your thought process.

SapperSaint 07-07-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 73Saint (Post 307492)
Sapper, I like your thought process.

well... thank you Sir!:p

Speedy Ron 07-08-2011 08:19 AM

That is absolutely ridiculous. tell me what job allows you to go back and argue your retirement after retirement. There is money being thrown around and negotiations and now people think they can come in and get their piece. B...S !!!!!
Brees is 100% correct. Talk about freakin crybabies. Hey man...you should have been smarter with your money.

breesfan27 07-08-2011 03:01 PM

I'm with Brees on this one (and not because he's my hubby :p) These players that are squandering their NFL money are doing this to themselves. No one is FORCING these players to buy every 100K car out there. No one is FORCING these players to knock up every woman they meet. Learn to manage your money better, and when you retire from the NFL, you can live comfortably.

Beastmode 07-08-2011 03:34 PM

Even the military has restrictions on entiltlements based on dates.
I understand some of their points but rules are rules. Things evolve and in 20 years the benefits to players will likely be better than what they are now but many of them won't qualify to receive those benefits. I wish Brees wouldn't get caught up in this petty mess. No matter what he says to them, even if he's 100% right, they will still be pissed off.

Danno 07-08-2011 03:42 PM

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Drew Brees - There’s some guys out there that have made bad business decisions. They took their pensions early because they never went out and got a job. They’ve had a couple divorces and they’re making payments to this place and that place. And that’s why they don’t have money. And they’re coming to us to basically say, ‘Please make up for my bad judgment.’”

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"Because it's important to me," Brees said. "I feel like it's part of my responsibility. And I understand the sacrifices that former players made for me. I take that as a tremendous amount of responsibility to represent not only those guys, but the guys that I play with now and the guys that are going to come after me that I might not ever know or meet."

He's yapping out of both sides of his yap.

4everSaint 07-08-2011 10:34 PM

Travis Henry has like 10 or 11 children by that same number of women. I don't blame Drew at all for his statement.

4everSaint 07-08-2011 10:40 PM

The bottom line is they are trying to set up their own version of welfare!

What I really love is these stupid news feeds I get about the #1 draft picks having to live at home and get a job until they get paid. WOW!

Welcome to reality and the world we all live in everday to pay YOUR salaries.

BringTheWood 07-08-2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 307677)
No matter what he says to them, even if he's 100% right, they will still be pissed off.

Welcome to speaking your mind and standing up for what you believe in. Everyone who has amounted to anything throughout history has done so much to the chagrin of their critics.

Also, these older players should get over themselves. I think there should be more healthcare help, but that's about it, and I'm not saying full coverage for every player across the board, just more help. The league could offer positions to old players to help supplement the lack of income once retired, but nothing should just be given. They're fortunate enough to be handed physical gifts that even allow the to play the game and get rich and famous, and it should be their responsibility to judge life accordingly and plan with their millions to sustain a comfortable life. It's beyond absurd, and highly offensive for them to equate themselves to the misfortunate that actually NEED welfare and charity.


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