Saints resign Scott Shanle

SAINT_MICHAEL · 07-28-2011, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Speaking of condescension....

BTW, the Saints had the fourth overall defense last year. Not the 16th.

But hey, since you're such a defensive expert as compared to say, Gregg Williams, I'll take your judgement over his.

No, in the rushing stats I was posting about they were not fourth:

From NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League for the 2010 season the saints gave up 112.3 YPG. That is 16th, not 4th. Fourth was San Diego at 93.8 YPG

Jack Vegas · 07-28-2011, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

No, in the rushing stats I was posting about they were not fourth:

From NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League for the 2010 season the saints gave up 112.3 YPG. That is 16th, not 4th. Fourth was San Diego at 93.8 YPG

You didn't say anything about rushing stats.

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

That top 10 defense you are so proud of was ranked 16th in yards allowed per game.

The word "rushing" is not in this sentence, and regardless, the fact that the defense was 4th overall is far more important than the fact that it was 16th in rushing.

Throwing Shanle out because the defense was not great against the run is akin to cutting PT and Ivory because our offensive run game sucked last year.

|Mitch| · 07-28-2011, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

That top 10 defense you are so proud of was ranked 16th in yards allowed per game. 13 teams were worse than the Saints (16 better) at yards per carry allowed. In the Seattle playoff game, they allowed a 6.3 YPC average and 150 yards total.

Should have read further

yards per carry = rushing

Jack Vegas · 07-28-2011, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Should have read further

yards per carry = rushing

Those two things could exist independently of each other. If you're going to go around using these kind of facts to bash people, at least word them correctly.

Regardless, I will stick to my supposition. Blaming Shanle for the team being 16th in rushing defense is retarded. I don't see anybody throwing Vilma or Clark/Dunbar under the bus.

|Mitch| · 07-28-2011, 08:10 PM

I'm not "bashing" anyone, I just understood what he was saying and apparently you didn't. No big deal; Shanle is resigned regardless who likes it or not, and more than likely has the starting spot until somebody can take it from him...

Jack Vegas · 07-28-2011, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I'm not "bashing" anyone, I just understood what he was saying and apparently you didn't. No big deal; Shanle is resigned regardless who likes it or not, and more than likely has the starting spot until somebody can take it from him...

Didn't mean "you" personally, I meant the universal "you".

Boutte · 07-28-2011, 08:12 PM

Bet we got him cheap.

alleycat_126 · 07-28-2011, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

i believe this is a false statement. where is the proof??????

Its freakin true!!!! It came outta Shawn Peyton's mouth and Jonathan Vilmas

How can you get re - upped when you absolutely blew it time and again at the OLB starter position! He was exposed, He exposed us, and he gets a new deal!!!! I don't understand

SAINT_MICHAEL · 07-28-2011, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Those two things could exist independently of each other. If you're going to go around using these kind of facts to bash people, at least word them correctly.

Regardless, I will stick to my supposition. Blaming Shanle for the team being 16th in rushing defense is retarded. I don't see anybody throwing Vilma or Clark/Dunbar under the bus.

Sorry you were not catching I was talking about rushing D as some others could. Since you seem to like to jump on others, I'll try to be more specific.

It's pretty simple. This thread is about Shanle.
No one is on Dunbar etc. because the thread isn't about them.

Speedy Ron · 07-28-2011, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

If he was bad as you say he would've been beaten out for his job by one of the parade of young linebackers by now.

thats the scary thing...no one has beaten him out yet

07-28-2011, 07:59 PM	#51
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Speaking of condescension.... BTW, the Saints had the fourth overall defense last year. Not the 16th. But hey, since you're such a defensive expert as compared to say, Gregg Williams, I'll take your judgement over his. No, in the rushing stats I was posting about they were not fourth: From NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League for the 2010 season the saints gave up 112.3 YPG. That is 16th, not 4th. Fourth was San Diego at 93.8 YPG
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07-28-2011, 08:03 PM	#52
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL No, in the rushing stats I was posting about they were not fourth: From NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League for the 2010 season the saints gave up 112.3 YPG. That is 16th, not 4th. Fourth was San Diego at 93.8 YPG You didn't say anything about rushing stats. Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL That top 10 defense you are so proud of was ranked 16th in yards allowed per game. The word "rushing" is not in this sentence, and regardless, the fact that the defense was 4th overall is far more important than the fact that it was 16th in rushing. Throwing Shanle out because the defense was not great against the run is akin to cutting PT and Ivory because our offensive run game sucked last year.
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07-28-2011, 08:04 PM	#53
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL That top 10 defense you are so proud of was ranked 16th in yards allowed per game. 13 teams were worse than the Saints (16 better) at yards per carry allowed. In the Seattle playoff game, they allowed a 6.3 YPC average and 150 yards total. Should have read further yards per carry = rushing

07-28-2011, 08:06 PM	#54
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Should have read further yards per carry = rushing Those two things could exist independently of each other. If you're going to go around using these kind of facts to bash people, at least word them correctly. Regardless, I will stick to my supposition. Blaming Shanle for the team being 16th in rushing defense is retarded. I don't see anybody throwing Vilma or Clark/Dunbar under the bus.
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07-28-2011, 08:12 PM	#56
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I'm not "bashing" anyone, I just understood what he was saying and apparently you didn't. No big deal; Shanle is resigned regardless who likes it or not, and more than likely has the starting spot until somebody can take it from him... Didn't mean "you" personally, I meant the universal "you".
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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	I'm not "bashing" anyone, I just understood what he was saying and apparently you didn't. No big deal; Shanle is resigned regardless who likes it or not, and more than likely has the starting spot until somebody can take it from him...

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alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by Speedy Ron i believe this is a false statement. where is the proof?????? Its freakin true!!!! It came outta Shawn Peyton's mouth and Jonathan Vilmas How can you get re - upped when you absolutely blew it time and again at the OLB starter position! He was exposed, He exposed us, and he gets a new deal!!!! I don't understand

07-28-2011, 08:46 PM	#59
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Those two things could exist independently of each other. If you're going to go around using these kind of facts to bash people, at least word them correctly. Regardless, I will stick to my supposition. Blaming Shanle for the team being 16th in rushing defense is retarded. I don't see anybody throwing Vilma or Clark/Dunbar under the bus. Sorry you were not catching I was talking about rushing D as some others could. Since you seem to like to jump on others, I'll try to be more specific. It's pretty simple. This thread is about Shanle. No one is on Dunbar etc. because the thread isn't about them.
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07-28-2011, 09:20 PM	#60
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Originally Posted by Jack Vegas If he was bad as you say he would've been beaten out for his job by one of the parade of young linebackers by now. thats the scary thing...no one has beaten him out yet

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