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foreverfan 07-31-2011 05:33 PM

Ingram is going to be a bust!
 
If his first NFL carry has anything to do with it. ;)

Saints rookie Mark Ingram receives harsh welcome to NFL in first full practice


METAIRIE – Though the third practice of training camp hardly counts, prized rookie running back Mark Ingram’s first professional carry with the New Orleans Saints left much to be desired Sunday morning.

After being stopped for a loss around left end, the 2009 Heisman Trophy winner from Alabama and the team’s second of two first-round draft picks, not only lost the ball but he also lost his helmet.

Saints’ veteran middle linebacker Jonathan Vilma made the strip and scoop. There is some dispute as to who unhinged Ingram’s helmet. Some observers cite Vilma (that would give him the trifecta), others give the nod to free safety Malcolm Jenkins.

Moments later, Saints Defensive Coordinator Gregg Williams’ added insult to Ingram’s bruised ego: “Welcome to the NFL! … Welcome! … Welcome! … Welcome!’’

“I thought the play was over,’’ Ingram explained. “I should have buttoned up but I didn’t. It is what it is. It’s all a learning experience for me. I made sure it didn’t happen again.’’
Sunday morning’s workout was Ingram’s first of training camp. He missed the first two workouts while his agent, Joel Segal, and team officials worked on a contract.

Danno 07-31-2011 05:35 PM

Welcome to the NFL Mark.

I love it. He'll fit in just fine.

biloxi-indian 07-31-2011 05:36 PM

Forever; I agree, I hope the Saints cut their losses early and are seeking a trade for an OLB and DT. :)

papz 07-31-2011 05:37 PM

I'll go first.

Reggie Bush is better than Mark Ingram.

Whew... glad I got that out the way.

Danno 07-31-2011 05:47 PM

Ingram can't hold Reggie's jock.

Reggie single-handedly won the Superbowl for us, and he demanded triple coverage every time he was on the field. We scored 14 more points per game when Reggie was on the field.

Payton was an idiot for using him so sparingly, and Brees was a moron for not feeding him the ball on every play.

Not using Reggie was the ONLY reason we didn't win more Superbowls over the last 5 years.

This Ingram punk will be the Ryan Leaf of running backs.

Sincerely,
BRA (B&G Reggiholics Anonymous)

jcp026 07-31-2011 05:53 PM

All little early to panic. If he'd torn his ACL on that carry we might have something to worry about.

saintsfan1976 07-31-2011 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcp026 (Post 313831)
All little early to panic. If he'd torn his ACL on that carry we might have something to worry about.

Hush your face

papz 07-31-2011 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 313828)
Ingram can't hold Reggie's jock.

Reggie single-handedly won the Superbowl for us, and he demanded triple coverage every time he was on the field. We scored 14 more points per game when Reggie was on the field.

Payton was an idiot for using him so sparingly, and Brees was a moron for not feeding him the ball on every play.

Not using Reggie was the ONLY reason we didn't win more Superbowls over the last 5 years.

This Ingram punk will be the Ryan Leaf of running backs.

Sincerely,
BRA (B&G Reggiholics Anonymous)


Don't one up me! :cursing:

Danno 07-31-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 313833)
Don't one up me! :cursing:

Its only week one of TC, you'll have other opportunities I'm sure.:p

You placed it in the fairway, I just took a 2nd swing at it.

eschneider 07-31-2011 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 313828)
Ingram can't hold Reggie's jock.

Reggie single-handedly won the Superbowl for us, and he demanded triple coverage every time he was on the field. We scored 14 more points per game when Reggie was on the field.

Payton was an idiot for using him so sparingly, and Brees was a moron for not feeding him the ball on every play.

Not using Reggie was the ONLY reason we didn't win more Superbowls over the last 5 years.

This Ingram punk will be the Ryan Leaf of running backs.

Sincerely,
BRA (B&G Reggiholics Anonymous)

What's with all the haters? Reggie Bush has moved on and so should we. Ingram shows a lot of promise despite what happened on his FIRST DAY at training camp. Here's a little something if saw on espn.com about Reggie Bush...

"Since joining the team in 2006, Bush missed 20 games. In those games, the Saints went 13-7. That’s a .650 winning percentage. In games Bush played, the Saints went 36-24 (.600).

But we have much more than that. In games with Bush since 2006, the Saints averaged 25.9 points. Without him, they averaged 29.8. In games Bush played, the Saints averaged 377.4 yards per game. When he didn’t play, they averaged 419.8.

The Saints completed 66.5 percent of their passes when Bush played. When he didn’t, they completed 67.6."

To say that Reggie Bush single handedly won the Super Bowl for us is silly. If you want to pick a player, or play rather, that won us the Super Bowl I'd say it was the ambush play at the start of the second half. Sometimes the difference between winning and losing is that little thing called momentum.

If you disagree with me, that's fine. But I think we'll be just fine.

SUPERBOWL XLVI HERE WE COME.!

saintsfan1976 07-31-2011 06:38 PM

Knock, knock...

Who's there...?

Sarcasm.

dizzle88 07-31-2011 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschneider (Post 313847)
What's with all the haters? Reggie Bush has moved on and so should we. Ingram shows a lot of promise despite what happened on his FIRST DAY at training camp. Here's a little something if saw on espn.com about Reggie Bush...

"Since joining the team in 2006, Bush missed 20 games. In those games, the Saints went 13-7. That’s a .650 winning percentage. In games Bush played, the Saints went 36-24 (.600).

But we have much more than that. In games with Bush since 2006, the Saints averaged 25.9 points. Without him, they averaged 29.8. In games Bush played, the Saints averaged 377.4 yards per game. When he didn’t play, they averaged 419.8.

The Saints completed 66.5 percent of their passes when Bush played. When he didn’t, they completed 67.6."

To say that Reggie Bush single handedly won the Super Bowl for us is silly. If you want to pick a player, or play rather, that won us the Super Bowl I'd say it was the ambush play at the start of the second half. Sometimes the difference between winning and losing is that little thing called momentum.

If you disagree with me, that's fine. But I think we'll be just fine.

SUPERBOWL XLVI HERE WE COME.!

Don't take this thread seriously dude, its meant to a sarcastic thread. No one would label this guy a bust if he had a tough first day.

Tracy Porter got burned by Marques Colston on his first ever defensive snap, 2 years later he sealed our superbowl win!

SaintPauly 07-31-2011 06:42 PM

Yeah bro.... Danno wasn't really believing that..... "Welcome to B&G!" :)

FireVenturi 07-31-2011 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 313850)
Don't take this thread seriously dude, its meant to a sarcastic thread. No one would label this guy a bust if he had a tough first day.

Tracy Porter got burned by Marques Colston on his first ever defensive snap, 2 years later he sealed our superbowl win!


Well put Dizzle....we should cut Tracy too, while we're at it!!!!

9thWardDesire 07-31-2011 07:02 PM

We won't know until the middle of the season given the fact that there were no OTA's and plenty of bickering about the CBA.

Danno 07-31-2011 08:06 PM

I thought the obvious sarcasm was obviously obvious.

I laid it on pretty thick, obviously.

st thomas 07-31-2011 09:02 PM

the o-line had a hole for him and he went into the reggie shake and got baked like him. he'll learn.

SmashMouth 07-31-2011 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 313825)
I'll go first.

Reggie Bush is better than Mark Ingram.

Whew... glad I got that out the way.

Another Reggie thread ... GTFOH ... lol

Marlboro Man 07-31-2011 09:22 PM

Hey, I have always supported Reggie. To this day I still don't believe he was used correctly in our offense and I think it stunted his ability and his career here.

On another note, Reggie alluded to his injuries being caused because he wasn't playing on natural turf, but last season alone, he was injured twice, once on natural turf against Pittsburg and the other, also on natural turf in Seattle so that statement doesn't hold water.

Finally, I think we'll all see a much improved Reggie in Miami, after all, they know how to run the ball and have an O-Line that knows how to run block. Now that's the last thing I have to say about Reggie until the season starts.

As for the practices, I'm somewhat disturbed with Drew's continued carelessness with the football already in TC with 3 picks being thrown in 3 practices. I hope he can get back to 09 form.

As for Ingram, I'm usually fairly positive about rookie RB's but I'm wondering if we're all expecting too much from this kid like we did with Reggie and then wind up getting disappointed. Due to all the injuries, our RB corps looks a little thin going into camp but if everyone comes out healthy by the start of the season it could be a very good RB corps.

I know one thing, and that is that I'm really looking forward to seeing Shaun Rogers play. I wish we could have gotten him 3 years ago. Can't wait to see his effect on our D-Line. Cullen Jenkins made a mistake going to the Eagles but then he already has his Super Bowl ring so it's all about the money for him now. Too bad, he could have joined that group of players that won Super Bowls on two different teams. Still, I hope we pick up another DT and or Hargrove for the rotation.

saintfan 07-31-2011 10:24 PM

The NFL will make a bust of him...in Ohio. LOL

Euphoria 07-31-2011 10:29 PM

Make a spot for him on the All-Aaron Brooks Team.

I had to mention him on a thread like this, lol.

st thomas 07-31-2011 10:32 PM

i don't believe anyone is a reggie hater or basher, its just the way some of us mourn his lost. he will be missed,lgo.

QBREES9 07-31-2011 10:34 PM

Dam can he play a game in the NFL, before we label him Jamarcus Russell .....

darstep 07-31-2011 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 313953)
Make a spot for him on the All-Aaron Brooks Team.

I had to mention him on a thread like this, lol.

Saw AB the other day. He's ready!

QBREES9 07-31-2011 10:37 PM

For what ???

BringTheWood 07-31-2011 11:01 PM

Haters gonna hate.

Crusader 08-01-2011 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darstep (Post 313960)
Saw AB the other day. He's ready!

for a ride on the short bus.

pherein 08-01-2011 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man (Post 313919)

Finally, I think we'll all see a much improved Reggie in Miami, after all, they know how to run the ball and have an O-Line that knows how to run block. Now that's the last thing I have to say about Reggie until the season starts.

Ok you have a right to your opinion, but not sure how you have that opinion.
Miami has one of the worst OL in the NFL Ranks #22

NFL Stats: by Team Category

and if you look at Miami's Team stats and ranking there yards average rushing is #29
2010 Miami Dolphins Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com

My opinion, Reggie is going to be mortally wounded on his 1st run,lol

he's been running behind the #1-2 OL in the NLF for the last 5 years,
he will play the Pats 2x and Jets 2x a year , plus Pit, ad the ravens.
Reggie made a huge mistake carrier wise going to a team with little weapons , no QB play , and a crappy OL. he will be hit and often.

Reggie gonna die,lol

foreverfan 08-01-2011 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 314007)
Ok you have a right to your opinion, but not sure how you have that opinion.
Miami has one of the worst OL in the NFL Ranks #22

NFL Stats: by Team Category

and if you look at Miami's Team stats and ranking there yards average rushing is #29
2010 Miami Dolphins Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com

My opinion, Reggie is going to be mortally wounded on his 1st run,lol

he's been running behind the #1-2 OL in the NLF for the last 5 years,
he will play the Pats 2x and Jets 2x a year , plus Pit, ad the ravens.
Reggie made a huge mistake carrier wise going to a team with little weapons , no QB play , and a crappy OL. he will be hit and often.

Reggie gonna die,lol

Reggie got what's coming to him. Now he will get what's coming to him. :o

foreverfan 08-01-2011 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 313896)
I thought the obvious sarcasm was obviously obvious.

I laid it on pretty thick, obviously.

The guy is a total newbe. Everybody else knew you were kidding. :rolleyes:


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