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Beastmode 08-04-2011 09:49 PM

Brees tied with Vick. O RLY?
 
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The Dude 08-04-2011 09:53 PM

Its fantasy. Has no bearing on how much better or worse of a QB Brees is than Vick.

WestBankbOrn 08-04-2011 09:54 PM

as they say on ESPN, C'mon maaaan.

Beastmode 08-04-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 315723)
Its fantasy. Has no bearing on how much better or worse of a QB Brees is than Vick.

So your saying it fails to consider trivial stuff like winning a SB and being in a Federal prison. Explain?

The Dude 08-04-2011 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 315730)
So your saying it fails to consider trivial stuff like winning a SB and being in a Federal prison. Explain?

lol and injury proneness.

NinthWardJay 08-05-2011 12:51 AM

lmao you cant take this as a literal article in terms of fantasy quarterbacks yes i can see Vick on par or even above par with all of the top quarterbacks. In fantasy football Vick is given a great edge due to his ability to run with the football. He's like a Quarterback+Running Back in Fantasy Football.

Beastmode 08-05-2011 07:45 AM

I've never played FF. I know it's stat driven of course but I also thought it had other factors in there as far as FF draft rankings mainly injuries/missed games. If a player puts up mad stats but has missed significant playing time it would seem their ranking would drop considerably.

Maverick2299 08-05-2011 08:33 AM

It goes by how many points they got last year and how many projected this year. I can see Vick being higher due to rushing and passing.

Memnoch_TP 08-05-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 315803)
I've never played FF. I know it's stat driven of course but I also thought it had other factors in there as far as FF draft rankings mainly injuries/missed games. If a player puts up mad stats but has missed significant playing time it would seem their ranking would drop considerably.

Last year Mike Vick scored more fantasy points than any other QB, and he did it in only 12 games. So even if you have to fill in 4 games with a Matt Cassel or a Jay Cutler, you are still head and shoulders above everyone else. Even the guy starting Aaron Rogers all season.

So, no, if they put up mad stats, you draft them and then dance with glee. A little preparation counters the negatives.

pinch 08-05-2011 09:38 AM

Vick's Value in Fantasy Football
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 315803)
I've never played FF. I know it's stat driven of course but I also thought it had other factors in there as far as FF draft rankings mainly injuries/missed games. If a player puts up mad stats but has missed significant playing time it would seem their ranking would drop considerably.

Beastmode you are correct. But in fantasy football players are sometimes judged by potential. Sure Mike Vick has only played a complete season once in his career, but the trade-off is that if he doesn't get injured he can lead your team to a championship.

Vick didn't lead all QB in scoring last year, because that honor went to Tom Brady with Aaron Rodgers finishing a close second. Vick was 4th behind Brady, Rodgers, & Manning. So you see that injuries are in fact a concern in fantasy and shouldn't be ignored.

However, for those owners who draft on potential, Vick did dominate in the all-important statistic "Fantasy Points Per Game". Vick scored 29.1 fantasy points per game (he only played 12 games) while the closest player to that was Aaron Rodgers with 23.9 fantasy points per game. This means that Vick was almost a full TD per-game better than all other fantasy quarterbacks using FPPG. That's huge but again, its a calculate risk.

I created a website where you can create fantasy football cheat sheets using drag and drop. On my quarterback rankings page you can see my rankings and also view how each QB performed using the TFP (Total Fantasy Points) and the FPPG statistic. Hope this helps someone.

2011 NFL Quarterback Rankings


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