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strato 08-18-2011 08:30 AM

New Orleans Saints' extensive injury list perplexes Sean Payton
 
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If the New Orleans Saints were playing a game that counted Saturday night at Houston, Coach Sean Payton no doubt would have had real concern in his voice Wednesday night.


As it was, he was left scratching his head at an injury list he first said was uncomfortably long but later insisted was about the norm for this point in training camp. Of the 90 players allowed on NFL camp rosters, the Saints had 16 miss practice Wednesday.
"It's a bigger list than I'd like right now," Payton said. "It seems like in the last two or three days, it's gotten bigger."
Several starters were among those who missed practice, including guard Jahri Evans, a Pro Bowl starter last season. Evans' absence was a surprise, but Payton said the team backed off the six-year veteran who some rate the finest guard in the NFL because of some minor knee swelling. Evans is expected back on the field today, Payton said.


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strato 08-18-2011 08:34 AM

Damn Lockout!

papz 08-18-2011 08:51 AM

Sounds fruity... but I think yoga needs to be incorporated in their weekly workout routine.

FinSaint 08-18-2011 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 321022)
Sounds fruity... but I think yoga needs to be incorporated in their weekly workout routine.

And yoghurt too... it's good for the bones and you can put some fruit into it too. http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/fun/m0160.gif

homerj07 08-18-2011 10:48 AM

Just no "Star Caps"!!

GeauxForMore 08-18-2011 11:24 AM

Being flexible does help with the prevention of injuries. Maybe Papz is right.

neugey 08-18-2011 11:47 AM

Definitely a year to keep an eye on the team medical and conditioning staff. Injuries aren't their fault but they are their problem. Hope they can make more correct evaluations and decisions. If not, they could be held accountable.

73Saint 08-18-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 321022)
Sounds fruity... but I think yoga needs to be incorporated in their weekly workout routine.


You are right. On both accounts. Yes yoga may seem a bit "fruity" for lack of a better, but honestly, it does amazing things when it comes to core strength, flexibility, and most of all...Injury resistance.

So yeah, it's the modern day ballet for athletes. Good point.

73Saint 08-18-2011 12:23 PM

And I said this last year, but has anyone scrutinized our trainers? I'm certainly not pointing any fingers, but maybe we should look at some of our practices in preventative maintenance.

SmashMouth 08-18-2011 12:29 PM

I heard FF is great at Yoga ... maybe he can train these guys?

papz 08-18-2011 12:32 PM

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com...7834218750.jpg

First.

darstep 08-18-2011 12:34 PM

Football is brutal, no free passes. You almost have to be lucky, and good conditioning doesn't hurt at all. You have to fall right, roll right and sometimes that's prevented by a really big dude. We got banged up the past two seasons. We got through it in 09' and just could not get it done through last years injuries. You can bet we will have our share this year. We have to figure out a way to still get the job done with the plug-ins, short & long term, and just hope the breakdowns aren't in the drive train.

SAINT_MICHAEL 08-18-2011 12:34 PM

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I thought he was only good with pick-a-nick baskets!

FinSaint 08-18-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 73Saint (Post 321055)
And I said this last year, but has anyone scrutinized our trainers? I'm certainly not pointing any fingers, but maybe we should look at some of our practices in preventative maintenance.

Well the weather conditions under which the Saints go to camp are unparalleled when it comes to heat and humidity that's one of the reasons I thought the change to Oxnard was great.

And I'd also want to put out the argument for Pilates training 'cos it's a well proven scientific fact that it helps athletes - especially those in contact sports - to increase their core muscle strength and to prevent injuries caused by f.e. weight lifting by targeting various muscle groups and strengthening them without necessarily building muscle.

Srgt. Hulka 08-18-2011 12:39 PM

Damn, here we are, three weeks after the new CBA agreement and less than a week after our first preseason game and we are already concerned about injuries. Almost 20% of our roster is missing practice because of injury. This is starting to suck.

st thomas 08-18-2011 01:13 PM

i can't add anything to what all of u have already said. it does suck that we have to be the team with the injury problems again. all these dammed knees swelling on our meat of the team.

crawgator 08-18-2011 03:45 PM

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...3e5a76df63e6b3

Maybe this would help!!!

Rugby Saint II 08-18-2011 04:05 PM

Yoga would be great for core conditioning. So would Pilates. I know these guys stretch but maybe we should evaluate each player and give them individual stretching exercises. Flexibility is very important to me and my rugby game.

FinSaint 08-18-2011 04:17 PM

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Can you imagine Rogers doing that?! http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/fun/m0124.gif

Maverick2299 08-18-2011 04:30 PM

I am sure most of the issues is because of the lock-out.

papz 08-18-2011 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 321125)
Can you imagine Rogers doing that?! http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/fun/m0124.gif

If he could, the legend of the great almighty Walter Thomas will die.

Crusader 08-19-2011 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 321064)
Well the weather conditions under which the Saints go to camp are unparalleled when it comes to heat and humidity that's one of the reasons I thought the change to Oxnard was great.

I agree. The heat and humidity helps to cause a lot of the physical problems for guys during camp. Its tough to stay hydrated which increase the risk for injury.

The Dude 08-19-2011 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 321022)
Sounds fruity... but I think yoga needs to be incorporated in their weekly workout routine.

Agreed. Yoga is awesome. I did it for years. Aftere suffering chronic back pain for years I tried yoga and have never had a back problem since. It limbers your body and tones muscle, and has many other prevenitive injury benifits.

Crusader 08-19-2011 03:47 AM

Sounds good Dude. If it works lets do it! Maybe I should try it myself...

FinSaint 08-19-2011 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 321241)
Agreed. Yoga is awesome. I did it for years. Aftere suffering chronic back pain for years I tried yoga and have never had a back problem since. It limbers your body and tones muscle, and has many other prevenitive injury benifits.

I was diagnosed with a genetic condition which causes my immune system to attack the cells in my spinal intervertebral discs. This causes a gradual degradation of the mobility of my spine and continuous pain. While the medication I'm taking slows down the process - it cannot be stopped and one day (in the distant future I hope) the degradation will reach a point at which the situation will "freeze" and my spine gets "locked" in to whatever condition it's at that moment.

I have a tedious stretching and muscle fitness routine I do every single day, which takes me about an hour and 15 minutes. This routine is based on Pilates because of its effectiveness to increase core muscle strength without creating a lot of strain on the said muscles. With this daily routine I can fight the degradation and preserve my spinal mobility... and with any luck my spine will "lock up" in a fairly mobile state.

The routine doesn't help with the pain and I don't take any pain medicine, so the pain is still there with me every day. But it has helped my spinal mobility and movement a great deal and, therefore, it has made an immense impact on my attitude towards the condition and life itself.

papz 08-19-2011 07:20 AM

Sorry to hear that... hope everything works out well for you.

FinSaint 08-19-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 321268)
Sorry to hear that... hope everything works out well for you.

Thanks, but it's all fine. ;-)

Anyone can learn to live with some pain and discomfort... and since my condition is hereditary - as in I couldn't have done anything to prevent it - the Finnish government pays for all the meds and care I need or will need, so it's not even financially burdening as some conditions can be.

I actually consider myself lucky to only be going through something like this 'cos my girlfriend's two cousins have a type of muscular dystrophy - can't remember which specifically - and man that's one hard thing to develop all of a sudden in your life... to lose all your muscle control and be forced into an electric wheelchair for the rest of your life... that's what I call bad! :-(

QBREES9 08-20-2011 07:51 AM

ya have to play through the pain

Ashley 08-21-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 73Saint (Post 321055)
And I said this last year, but has anyone scrutinized our trainers? I'm certainly not pointing any fingers, but maybe we should look at some of our practices in preventative maintenance.

I'm backing you up on this one. WTF maybe Sean needs to look into this .


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