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dizzle88 09-16-2011 06:09 AM

The Keys to a win vs Chicago Bears
 
Here's what i think are the main objectives we need to do in order to get a win vs Chicago Bears.

1. DON'T EVER, EVER, EVER kick the ball to Devin Hester, I used to think it was due to good blocking that he used to return punts week in and week out, but I've seen all his returns and he seriously just needs a little gap. We made the mistake of kicking to him in 2007, he ran it straight back.

2. - Stop Matt Forte constantly, Shaun Rogers and Aubrayo Franklin need to get a great push. Occupy the double teams and let the LB's come through to make the play, we can't let forte establish a steady running game because it will be tough to stop if he does.

2.a - This is a no-brainer, force the bears to commit to the pass by getting a good lead early and making them fall behind. Put the ball in Cutlers hand and i promise you, he will try to force a pass that he shouldn't, we need to take advantage of this opportunity when he does!

3. Lastly, this one is for Coach Payton - Commit to the Run game, we have 3 pro bowlers in the backfield as well as 3 Pro Bowlers upfront on the offensive line. Use them!
This will open up the passing game so Drew can be aggressive and take shots downfield, it will also give him a hell of a lot of time in the backfield!!

Saint_LB 09-16-2011 06:50 AM

Score more points than they do...

darstep 09-16-2011 10:24 AM

I agree with all of them Dizzle.
No turnovers...on our part...2 or 3 take-aways would do just fine.
We got man handled up front on both sides of the ball last week. That needs to change.
PT as number1 with Ingram in relief, and not the other way around.
It looks like Ingram (like Reggie) still needs to learn the NFL cut-back.
He's no longer a man among boys and what worked at the college level, may only work at the college level.
PT, at this time, seems to have better eyes but I have no doubt that Ingram will soon get his focus, and more clearly see the field.

pinch 09-16-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by darstep (Post 330689)
I agree with all of them Dizzle.
No turnovers...on our part...2 or 3 take-aways would do just fine.
We got man handled up front on both sides of the ball last week. That needs to change.
PT as number1 with Ingram in relief, and not the other way around.
It looks like Ingram (like Reggie) still needs to learn the NFL cut-back.
He's no longer a man among boys and what worked at the college level, may only work at the college level.
PT, at this time, seems to have better eyes but I have no doubt that Ingram will soon get his focus, and more clearly see the field.

Great point. As expected last week Pierre was around 5 yards per carry with Ingram at 3. Pierre is our best back and we need to utilize him more.

We have to contain Forte on the edges. Our LBs have been awful about letting RBs bounce outside and if we can't do that this week Forte is going to eat us alive.

darstep 09-16-2011 10:49 AM

I can't even remember how many times we let the Pack get away and turn what should have been a 3rd-and-8 into a 3rd-and-1. Those two scenerios are whole lot different on both sides of the ball. Wrap-and-roll! We have the advantage when we actually make the tackles that keep them in 3rd-and-long.

crawgator 09-16-2011 11:19 AM

Just to add we need to stop the Bears screen package as well...

RaginCajun83 09-16-2011 11:24 AM

1. Tackle
2. Tackle
3. Tackle
4. Tackle
5. Tackle

Luda34 09-16-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 330703)
1. Tackle
2. Tackle
3. Tackle
4. Tackle
5. Tackle

you took words out my mouth

Sinner 09-16-2011 12:43 PM

Shake up CUTLER. Introduce his a$$ to the ground.

FireVenturi 09-16-2011 02:32 PM

I think the most important aspect will be us being able to get pressure without blitzing, and we HAVE to start forcing turnovers.

Mardigras9 09-16-2011 03:26 PM

Contain Peppers

|Mitch| 09-16-2011 05:54 PM

Darren Sproles needs to keep us in good field position on special teams. He doesn't have to run a punt back[it would be nice], but decent returns giving us a short field to work with and we win...

homerj07 09-16-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 330703)
1. Tackle
2. Tackle
3. Tackle
4. Tackle
5. Tackle

EXACTLY!!!!! :(

jeanpierre 09-16-2011 06:50 PM

Open it up, track meet style with the pass, then run the clock out...

strato 09-17-2011 12:44 PM

The Bears run the Tampa 2..the best way to beat it is with the run game and TEs and backs hitting the seam route..they will try and keep everything in front of them and let the LBs and corners come up in run support...Drew should be able to hit Sproles and Graham in the middle of the field for good gains..we have to and i mean have to establish the run..I dont think we will have to play catch up ...so we should be able to get the ground game going..

On Defense we need pressure!..Cuntler makes mistakes when he gets rattled..He will try and beat the blitz with quick slants and crossing routes..Dallas got burned by him last year blitzing a lot..so we need to be careful about blitzing and if we do ...make sure and wrap up dont let him get free and beat us on the move..

I would like to see our front four get pressure early and often allowing our our corners time to lock down on their receivers ..also allowing or LBs to shed blocks and make plays..

Bottom line is Chicago has a very mediocre offense and they don't have the explosive play making ability that the Saints do..If the Saints play a smart turnover free game ..this should be a 2 score victory..

UK_WhoDat 09-17-2011 02:51 PM

Protect the ball. Period.

The rest will follow.

xan 09-17-2011 03:02 PM

Keys are simple:

The O-line has to engage their block for half a second longer.
The TE must chip the DE's
WR's must be willing to go over the middle, make the catch and expect contact. Without Colston, that means Devery and Meachem must man up.
Red zone play calling must include a backup play to check out of when the defense KNOWS what we're doing.
Snap the ball with 20 seconds on the playclock, not 4. Make the Bears suffer in the 1st half.
Position pursuit to account for the cutback.
Keep a spy on Forte
Corners must hit the ballcarrier in the midsection, not dive at the feet. I say this every week, so I don't expect much to change.

Ashley 09-17-2011 03:35 PM

I say go turn off the lights to the locker room, go in and just start to way-lay their asses. Then just keep it going on the field.

pherein 09-17-2011 05:21 PM

Just a little fuel for the fire

Last years stats ( teams never improve that much , unless they had massive injuries, or were great before)

Offensive line
#5 Saints
#32 Bears

Team Offense
#9 Saints
#21 Bears

Passing offense
#3 Saints
#28 Bears

Passing
#2 Brees
#20 Cutler

Rushing offense
#28 Saints
#22 Bears

Scoring
#10 Saints
#21 Bears

Team Defense
#7 Saints
#4 Bears

Pass Defense
#4 Saints
#20 Bears

Rush Defense
#16 Saints
#2 Bears

Current

Stat Time

Offense

3. Saints - 34 points per game, 477 yards per game, 6.5 yards per play, 64% 3rd down conversion, 27:06 time of possession, -1 turnover margin

14. Bears - 30 ppg, 377 ypg, 5.9 ypp, 38% 3rd down, 33:19 TOP, +2 TOM



Passing Offense

3. Saints - 396 ypg, 8.6 ypa, 65.3 % completion, 3 td, 0 int, (6) 20+ yard plays, 3 sacks, 112.5 qb rating

11. Bears - 289 ypg, 9.8 ypa, 68.8% completion, 2 td, 1 int, (5) 20+ yard plays, 5 sacks, 107.8 qb rating



Rushing Offense

17. Bears - 88 ypg, 3.3 yards per carry, 0 td, 0 fumbles, ( 1) 20+ yard play

20. Saints - 81 ypg, 3.9 ypc, 0 td, 0 fum, (1) 20+ yard play



Defense

22. Bears - 12 ppg, 386 ypg, 5.8 ypp, 31% 3rd down, 2 fumble recoveries

25. Saints - 42 ppg, 399 ypg, 6.2 ypp, 67% 3rd down, 0 fr



Pass Defense

21. Bears - 276 ypg, 6.8 ypa, 66% completion, 0 tds, 1 int, (4) 20+ yard plays, 5 sacks, 76.5 qb rating

24. Saints - 296 ypg, 8.9 ypa, 77% completion, 3 tds, 0 int, (4) 20+ yard plays, 2 sacks, 132.1 qb rating



Rush Defense

19. Saints - 103 ypg, 3.8 ypc, 2 td, 0 fr,( 0) 20+ yard plays

22. Bears - 110 ypg, 7.9 ypc, 0td, 1 fr, (1) 20+ yard plays



Overall Statistical Analysis: Looking at statistics without taking into account the situations they occurred in is very much like seeing a quote without context; you can come to the wrong conclusions very easily. I'll leave you with a few important points to ponder. Chicago's offense does not pose much of a threat to the Saints. They have a poor offensive line, a quarterback who takes too many hits and a mediocre (at best) group of pass catchers. With a two score lead, they still could not run the ball or convert well on third downs. Chicago's defense will have a more difficult time against the Saints because the Saints have a complete offense with complementary diversity in the run and pass game. Defensively, both Chicago's 7.9 yards per carry and the Saints 132.1 QB rating are anomalies.

Conclusion: The Saints have the ability to expose and exploit Chicago's defense, while the Bears offense has no such ability. It's as simple as that.





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Danno 09-17-2011 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 330986)
The Bears run the Tampa 2..the best way to beat it is with the run game and TEs and backs hitting the seam route..they will try and keep everything in front of them and let the LBs and corners come up in run support...Drew should be able to hit Sproles and Graham in the middle of the field for good gains..we have to and i mean have to establish the run..I dont think we will have to play catch up ...so we should be able to get the ground game going.....

Yep, thats the blueprint for beating a cover-2 defense. The key will be Urlacher. He's the man when it comes to defending those seams, and he's probably the best in the NFL at it.

If Urlacher brings his A-game we're in a dog fight. If he brings his B game, we win by two scores.

Of course as always turnover differential will likely be the deciding factor. Its a cliche for a reason.

LordYourGod 09-18-2011 02:01 AM

Not going to happen. Urlacher is going to have one of the greatest games of his career. Saints will lose, but go on to win the division. Bear will win, and go on to win the Super Bowl.

Pete 09-18-2011 10:57 AM

Great secondary play!We need that one extra second to nail cutler!


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