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saintz08 01-18-2004 11:45 PM

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 
Well I had to wait a year too do it .

Was said you cannot use college stats , backup quarterback stats or single game stats .

So here it is Brookians and Delhommites .

The first years stats from Brooks first year and Delhommes first year .

Passing yds
Brooks = 3832
Jake = 3219

TD's - INT's
Brooks = 26 -22
Jake = 19 -16

Completion percentage
Brooks = 55.9
Jake = 59.2

Yards per attempt
Brooks = 6.87
Jake = 7.17

QB rating
Brooks = 76.4
Jake = 80.6

Super Bowl appearances
Brooks = 0
Delhomme = 1

Let the Crow eating festival begin .

Saved the biggest one for saintsfan , hope no one minds ...... :P

Since this years Super Bowl has a Cajun theme to it , at least for Saints fans . Hope you do not mind the extra spices ....lol

WhoDat 01-19-2004 12:09 AM

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 
While we\'re at it, can we list the players that Haslett got rid of since he came to NO that were either Pro Bowlers or on a playoff team (or both) since leaving, versus the guys we have signed that fit either of those two categories (NOT INCLUDING THE DRAFT - FREE AGENTS)?

This outta be laughable. Who wants to start?

Danno 01-19-2004 08:19 AM

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 
Oh jeez, NOT AGAIN!
1st off, if Jake was here we\'d still be an 8-8 team or worse.
If Brooks was in Carolina they\'d still be going superbowl.

Roaf? How can anyone argue with letting Roaf go considering all the facts. Salary cap hell, MEGA contract demands, Unhappy unproductive malcontent whose only hope at returning to a pro-bowl level was a change of scenery. Not to mention rumors of players sleeping with his wife.

Turley...sorry we upgraded that position with a better player at 1/2 the price.

Glover? Only player I see that we missed on.

Rickey? OK maybe we should\'ve let Deuce go instead?

I don\'t understand some people\'s logic...

If we let all these awesome players go elsewhere and replace them with Hacks, then it would appear we have no talent. If we have no talent then Haz and company must of coached their assses off to go 8-8 with no talent injury decimated team.

But I also hear that we should fire Haz for going 8-8 with a team full of talented players. I know I\'ve heard several say we have way too much talent on this team to go 8-8.

Which is it?

saintfan 01-19-2004 09:11 AM

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 
Danno --

Some say it\'s all about coaching. Some of the very same ones says it\'s all Brooks fault. One in particular says that even tho it\'s all about coaching the Saints will go 12-4 next year in spite of the coaching. We must recognize the \"logic\" we\'re dealing with and move on.

On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. I have nothing against Delhomme, but I do have to say he\'s got to be the QB on the luckiest team I have seen since the 1998 Pickering High Red Devels! LOL I doubt they\'ll beat New England in Houston, but the Gods do seem to be with \'em.

Danno 01-19-2004 09:44 AM

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 
Let me see,
Philly 33, New Orleans 20
Carolina 14, Philly 3
Seems to me if we had Carolina\'s defense we win 20-3.

Its CLEARLY obvious that Brooks is 6 points better than Jake. Right?
I think I\'ll start yet another topic on this...

saintfan 01-19-2004 10:15 AM

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 
LMAO

:P

saintz08 01-19-2004 11:58 AM

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 
Quote:

Let me see,
Philly 33, New Orleans 20
Carolina 14, Philly 3
Seems to me if we had Carolina\'s defense we win 20-3.

Its CLEARLY obvious that Brooks is 6 points better than Jake. Right?
I think I\'ll start yet another topic on this...
Brooks 6 points better ????

New Orleans 13 , Dallas 7
Carolina 29 , Dallas 10

You mean Jake is 16 points better then Brooks ..... ;)


BrooksMustGo 01-19-2004 01:00 PM

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 
I don\'t have a huge opinion on this topic either way. I have great confidence in Haslett to make this a mediocre team. So I don\'t think Delhomme would have taken us to the playoffs. At the same time, I don\'t think that Brooks would be taking the Panthers to the superbowl, he just screws up at crucial moments.

However, it seems like the entire argument boils down to this truth.
A. Delhomme is under-rated
B. Brooks is over-rated

Where this becomes problematic is with our front office (strange that this has been the common thread for the history of the franchise with the exception of the Finks years).

In short, the guy with this team (Hazlett) who is supposed to be able to recognize and develop talent can\'t do either.

Cassady37 01-19-2004 05:48 PM

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 
Crap, I said I wouldn\'t be lured into another one of these debates but here I go again.
I do not think that if Brooks was in Carolina that they would be going to the Superbowl. Delhomme has that special ability to rally players around him, to get them to go that extra mile for him to win a game. He had it in New Orleans, almost everytime he came in the game you could sense/see the team step up a notch. He added that spark to the offense that wasn\'t there before. Even now, when it\'s FINALLY his time, he\'s as humble as can be to the point others are trying to make him take some of the credit for making to the big game. But by the same token I don\'t think if he was still in New Orleans he would\'ve led us to the superbowl, playoffs most probably, but not the superbowl. The coaching in this organization is noe set up for winning consistently or tweaking this team to adjust to other teams weakness\'s. Unilt the current regime is finally ousted, (read next year) we are not going anywhere. Geaux Jake boy, you get all you can! You deserve it and I hope you get it!

BillyC 01-20-2004 09:59 AM

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 
Where to begin? Instead of comparing Delhomme to Brooks, let\'s compare Delhomme to Peyton Manning.

Peyton has been in the league 6-years and has won 2-playoff games. Jake has been a starter for 1-year and has won 3-playoff games. Jake makes plays in crunch time and Peyton? Well...........Peyton defines the term CHOKE ARTIST. Peyton Manning threw 4-interceptions in the AFC championship game and he alone is responsible of the loss.

Now all of you Delhomme faithful -- Is Delhomme better than Peyton? According to all the logic that you use in the Brooks vs. Delhomme debates, that would be the case.



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