Brees being sacked more this year than any other a Saint

alleycat_126 · 10-12-2011, 09:04 PM

He is a qb who feels when his line has broken down, plus I think he knows that this line is not as good as ones that he has had in the past, and are banged up to boot. I would take the sacks that Drew takes over the sacks that Cutler takes anyday. This line is not that bad!!!

st thomas · 10-12-2011, 09:06 PM

payton thinks the starters won't be out much longer.

FireVenturi · 10-12-2011, 09:31 PM

I agree we don't have a great O line, but far from the worst...

saintfan · 10-12-2011, 10:52 PM

Our line is not the best I've ever seen. I keep on wishing we had a line that rated up near the Cowboys line of the 90's...but...

Poor Jay Cutler. He just gets the hell knocked out of his self every damn week. Watching that line makes it hard to complain about ours.

xan · 10-12-2011, 11:02 PM

Yeah, bears o-line make sieves file defamation suits.

Ours has issues, but cutler is q far more mobil qb. I wouldnt want to be his insurance carrier.

Seriously, just watched NFL Replay. Our oline did a better job this week than weeks past. Playcalling was more the issue. Panthers had Shockey feeding them calls, which showed several times when brees audibled.

CantonLegend · 10-13-2011, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Saintswrath

We have probably one of the worst O-lines in Football and Brees is still able to put up astonishing numbers and remarkably remain healthy.
Something has to be done or we will not have him long.

kreutz nicks and evans make up the best interior in the league. PERIOD

our tackles are career backups. we traded away our all pro left tackle and cut our pro bowl right tackle.

right now we are starting 2 backups due to injuries and brees is still only getting sacked every 20 pass attempts which is pretty good.

just like last year tho, our problem isnt with protection. its got more to do with drew throwing 44 times per game

strato · 10-13-2011, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

kreutz nicks and evans make up the best interior in the league. PERIOD
I kinda agree here..wish they would play like it
our tackles are career backups. we traded away our all pro left tackle and cut our pro bowl right tackle.
If you are referring to Jamal..well lets just say he is playing right tackle now..and still having trouble with false starts.Bushrod won a superbowl and Charles Brown was a 2nd round pick.. hardly career backups
right now we are starting 2 backups due to injuries and brees is still only getting sacked every 20 pass attempts which is pretty good.
Not too bad..i actually think de la Puenta is doing a fine job..and seems to have taken the backup spot from Tennant.
just like last year tho, our problem isnt with protection. its got more to do with drew throwing 44 times per game

Well yeah.. we are the Saints a pass first team..that has nothing to do with giving up sacks..They have a job ..protect Drew very simple.

Mardigras9 · 10-13-2011, 09:44 AM

I'm glad he's taking th sacks instead of trying to force something, thus less interceptions this year. Best QB in the league, no question.

CantonLegend · 10-13-2011, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Well yeah.. we are the Saints a pass first team..that has nothing to do with giving up sacks..They have a job ..protect Drew very simple.

streif and bushrod are the starters this season. charles brown is the backup starting due to injuries

DLP is grading out terribly as our starting center

of course brown is playing right tackle. trent williams is a stud at LT. but brown is having a great year and the redskins are at the top of the east right now

just because we won a super bowl with bushrod does not make him any good. cant believe ur still trying to convince ppl that matters at all...especially me

fwiw our line is doing a fine job considering we lost stinchcomb and now 2 of our starters due to injuries

you make me laugh when you say stuff like the lines job is to protect drew so they need to do it. you really dont understand that when you pass more you get sacked more do you? yes its the lines job to block...you know who else has a job? the guy lined up acrossed from our linemen that are playing 70+ snaps and only hitting drew twice a game.

FinSaint · 10-13-2011, 02:06 PM

The problem seems to be with the tackles, because the Saints have two of the best guards in the league and as already stated, De La Puente has filled in nicely as the center - actually to the point that I'm not sure if I'd want Kreutz back, because DLP is much stouter in the middle while Kreutz got pushed around somewhat.

Losing Strief was bad, but Brown has filled in better than I expected, still naturally that isn't saying much. I think most would agree that during the FA frenzy majority of us would've liked to see Goodwin stay if it came down to him and Bushrod, but this is what the Saints have now and it won't get better until the next draft and/or FA period.

Still, I don't think that the O-Line is as bad as some have stated - they're clearly not the best in the league, but still in the upper half. Additionally, I've been impressed with the blocking of the RBs - especially with Sproles with his stature.

10-12-2011, 09:04 PM	#11
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	He is a qb who feels when his line has broken down, plus I think he knows that this line is not as good as ones that he has had in the past, and are banged up to boot. I would take the sacks that Drew takes over the sacks that Cutler takes anyday. This line is not that bad!!! papz likes this.

10-12-2011, 09:31 PM	#13
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	I agree we don't have a great O line, but far from the worst... iceshack149 likes this.

10-13-2011, 09:05 AM	#16
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Saintswrath We have probably one of the worst O-lines in Football and Brees is still able to put up astonishing numbers and remarkably remain healthy. Something has to be done or we will not have him long. kreutz nicks and evans make up the best interior in the league. PERIOD our tackles are career backups. we traded away our all pro left tackle and cut our pro bowl right tackle. right now we are starting 2 backups due to injuries and brees is still only getting sacked every 20 pass attempts which is pretty good. just like last year tho, our problem isnt with protection. its got more to do with drew throwing 44 times per game

10-13-2011, 09:29 AM	#17
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by CantonLegend kreutz nicks and evans make up the best interior in the league. PERIOD I kinda agree here..wish they would play like it our tackles are career backups. we traded away our all pro left tackle and cut our pro bowl right tackle. If you are referring to Jamal..well lets just say he is playing right tackle now..and still having trouble with false starts.Bushrod won a superbowl and Charles Brown was a 2nd round pick.. hardly career backups right now we are starting 2 backups due to injuries and brees is still only getting sacked every 20 pass attempts which is pretty good. Not too bad..i actually think de la Puenta is doing a fine job..and seems to have taken the backup spot from Tennant. just like last year tho, our problem isnt with protection. its got more to do with drew throwing 44 times per game Well yeah.. we are the Saints a pass first team..that has nothing to do with giving up sacks..They have a job ..protect Drew very simple.
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10-13-2011, 09:44 AM	#18
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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Our line is not the best I've ever seen. I keep on wishing we had a line that rated up near the Cowboys line of the 90's...but... Poor Jay Cutler. He just gets the hell knocked out of his self every damn week. Watching that line makes it hard to complain about ours.

10-12-2011, 11:02 PM	#15
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,355 Blog Entries: 34	Yeah, bears o-line make sieves file defamation suits. Ours has issues, but cutler is q far more mobil qb. I wouldnt want to be his insurance carrier. Seriously, just watched NFL Replay. Our oline did a better job this week than weeks past. Playcalling was more the issue. Panthers had Shockey feeding them calls, which showed several times when brees audibled.

10-13-2011, 01:56 PM	#19
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by strato Well yeah.. we are the Saints a pass first team..that has nothing to do with giving up sacks..They have a job ..protect Drew very simple. streif and bushrod are the starters this season. charles brown is the backup starting due to injuries DLP is grading out terribly as our starting center of course brown is playing right tackle. trent williams is a stud at LT. but brown is having a great year and the redskins are at the top of the east right now just because we won a super bowl with bushrod does not make him any good. cant believe ur still trying to convince ppl that matters at all...especially me fwiw our line is doing a fine job considering we lost stinchcomb and now 2 of our starters due to injuries you make me laugh when you say stuff like the lines job is to protect drew so they need to do it. you really dont understand that when you pass more you get sacked more do you? yes its the lines job to block...you know who else has a job? the guy lined up acrossed from our linemen that are playing 70+ snaps and only hitting drew twice a game.
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10-13-2011, 02:06 PM	#20
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	The problem seems to be with the tackles, because the Saints have two of the best guards in the league and as already stated, De La Puente has filled in nicely as the center - actually to the point that I'm not sure if I'd want Kreutz back, because DLP is much stouter in the middle while Kreutz got pushed around somewhat. Losing Strief was bad, but Brown has filled in better than I expected, still naturally that isn't saying much. I think most would agree that during the FA frenzy majority of us would've liked to see Goodwin stay if it came down to him and Bushrod, but this is what the Saints have now and it won't get better until the next draft and/or FA period. Still, I don't think that the O-Line is as bad as some have stated - they're clearly not the best in the league, but still in the upper half. Additionally, I've been impressed with the blocking of the RBs - especially with Sproles with his stature.
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