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Danno 10-16-2011 04:49 PM

Pretty simple
 
Tampa rushes 4, and gets pressure on Brees.

Saints rush 6, and barely pressure Freeman.

If you rush 6 and don't get to the QB, ALL 32 starting QB's will destroy you, and probably 20 or so backups will too.

Our front 4 may be the biggest problem we have on defense, including Linebackers.

Belair57 10-16-2011 06:32 PM

you are 100% correct. Didnt see that loss coming. WTF

Belair57 10-16-2011 06:34 PM

ohhh, and Kruetz can get the F out of N.O....he allowed several penalties, and got WHOOOPED on several One on One pass rushes, get that trash out of here. Bring back la puente or what ever the hell his name is.

saintsfan1976 10-16-2011 06:34 PM

You can add Olen Kreutz to that list

Boutte 10-16-2011 06:37 PM

The defense is garbage. Worst third down defense I can remember seeing in a long time.

Maverick2299 10-16-2011 06:37 PM

As much as I want to blame the D. 4 turnovers is really really bad.

Halo 10-16-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick2299 (Post 340007)
As much as I want to blame the D. 4 turnovers is really really bad.

Yep, what he said!

Donuts32 10-16-2011 06:40 PM

I'm sorry but the offense goofed this one up big time. You can't turn the ball over 4 times and expect to win.

Rugby Saint II 10-16-2011 06:40 PM

I was hoping Kreutz would have to earn his spot back.....he didn't do that today.
Like Danno said no sign of our front four in their backfield and we must have the worst LBer's in the NFL. Don't get me wrong I love Jonathan Vilma but the supporting cast is nonexistent.

Belair57 10-16-2011 06:42 PM

I cannot believe that just ****in happened

Garry42 10-16-2011 06:42 PM

The Offense and Defense equally sucked today!

|Mitch| 10-16-2011 06:43 PM

that loss was a team effort today!

Danno 10-16-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 340012)
Like Danno said no sign of our front four in their backfield and we must have the worst LBer's in the NFL. Don't get me wrong I love Jonathan Vilma but the supporting cast is nonexistent.

Vilma excels with a strong front four. With a weak front four he borders on being a liability. Its why he was a bad fit in NY's 3-4.

LivnaLieTimay 10-16-2011 06:45 PM

Major problems from this game are things we've been doing all year but finally came back to bite us today...

1) We blitzed the entire game and had 0 sacks and 0 turnovers. They rushed 4 the entire game and forced 4 turnovers. We're just not forcing any turnovers this year.

2) Defense can't make a 3rd down stop.

3) Not getting TD's in the redzone.

4) Poor Tackling.

5) Today we also couldn't run the ball at all. Not something that we've done much of this year but this part of our offense has to improve.

dizzle88 10-16-2011 06:45 PM

Everyone was to blame

4 turnovers is ridiculous, can't blame tampa bay for taking the ball when we handed it to them on a plate

GW is starting to really get on my nerves, he says this is the best defense he has coached and we suck! we can't get any pressure without sending 6 or 7 guys whereas the bucs send 4 and brees is on his back

Worst football i've seen in a long time, they need to get it sorted, why is every game we play come down to the last play and we are down by 3-4 points, lets blow a team out for once!

foreverfan 10-16-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick2299 (Post 340007)
As much as I want to blame the D. 4 turnovers is really really bad.

100% of the reason. :bng:

spkb25 10-16-2011 06:48 PM

I am not sure why people find this hard to believe. You're playing your third game on the road, in a row, and it is against a team that was embarrassed the week before. They also were playing, in many ways, for their season. You had to expect you were going to get their absolute best.

Defense did not get pressure today- I agree, but man I can't put this loss on them. We had a chance to take the lead at the end and Brees throws an int in the end zone. Further you turn the ball over twice inside your 30 yard line. We had another 3rd down stop taken away by yet another blown PF call. I mean this one was even worse than the last 2.

Defense was not great today, but that loss is on the 4 ****ing turnovers by the O.

Garry42 10-16-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 340023)
Everyone was to blame

4 turnovers is ridiculous, can't blame tampa bay for taking the ball when we handed it to them on a plate

GW is starting to really get on my nerves, he says this is the best defense he has coached and we suck! we can't get any pressure without sending 6 or 7 guys whereas the bucs send 4 and brees is on his back

Worst football i've seen in a long time, they need to get it sorted, why is every game we play come down to the last play and we are down by 3-4 points, lets blow a team out for once!

Exactly what I was thinking! This team needs to get its head out of its ass right quick or it will be a very disappointing season! The game today was just a look into the future if they don't fix the fundamentals!

Cruize 10-16-2011 06:58 PM

Bottom line is the Saints lost to a less talented team today. That's the difference between being a great team and a good team. The Saints will be in every game they play. But, they can't turn the ball over -2 in any game and win. The defense is just not good.

Halo 10-16-2011 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 340047)
Bottom line is the Saints lost to a less talented team today. That's the difference between being a great team and a good team. The Saints will be in every game they play. But, they can't turn the ball over -2 in any game and win. The defense is just not good.

Come on Cruize, come back to us!

4 turnovers, some of them flukes, just ain't gonna cut it. Changed our entire gameplan.

They were just better than us today... best part about the NFL is there IS NEXT WEEK!!

Belair57 10-16-2011 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 340052)
Come on Cruize, come back to us!

4 turnovers, some of them flukes, just ain't gonna cut it. Changed our entire gameplan.

They were just better than us today... best part about the NFL is there IS NEXT WEEK!!

youre right halo, they were just better...flat out

Euphoria 10-16-2011 07:06 PM

Turnovers aside we were in this but going back to previous games and the end of last season we are still the same team, with no defense.

They don't know how to tackle and stop the run to save their lives.

BreesFN9 10-16-2011 07:08 PM

My post on Trade deadline : I love Vilma BUT....

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Dont think Ive ever heard ANYONE say " I love Vilma, BUT"....jeeze man..chill

Today:

Like Danno said no sign of our front four in their backfield and we must have the worst LBer's in the NFL. Don't get me wrong I love Jonathan Vilma but the supporting cast is nonexistent.


And you were saying???

Belair57 10-16-2011 07:10 PM

[QUOTE=BreesFN9;340061]My post on Trade deadline : I love Vilma BUT....

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Dont think Ive ever heard ANYONE say " I love Vilma, BUT"....jeeze man..chill

Today:

Like Danno said no sign of our front four in their backfield and we must have the worst LBer's in the NFL. Don't get me wrong I love Jonathan Vilma but the supporting cast is nonexistent.


Im a little pissed right now, so Im going to pretend you are not calling me out and making it personal about some **** with Vilma. He isnt the reason we lost, and your a tool if your trying to be me me me right now.

|Mitch| 10-16-2011 07:12 PM

Belair57; let it go man... BreesFN9 just trying to start some static...

BreesFN9 10-16-2011 07:16 PM

Get a clue read the post, you said clearly no one ever said, and it was funny that the exact same thing was said, LOL

You turn it into about you?

OK, bottom line we need a run stopping MLB, that's all I have to say, been at this forum a long time, but sad to say i will be looking for a new one, turning super negative the last year, no one can say anything here anymore..people jump down your throat?
Been a blast , Go Saint Forever, fix our LB core we may even get another Super BOWL??

Mitch, mind your business read the original post come back with something smart to say with your head out of your ...you know.

jnormand 10-16-2011 07:17 PM

Bring on the Colts. Now our team is pissed off. And they should be!

SmashMouth 10-16-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick2299 (Post 340007)
As much as I want to blame the D. 4 turnovers is really really bad.

Exactly ... yet it should have been three turnovers ... I did not realize it was legal to push off to get an interception :wink:, as it happened when Colston was pushed off. With three we still have a chance to win as sad as this sounds. And as aptly stated, an embarrassed Bucs team was sure to show up as they did... On to next week, in hopes that the team learned something from this.

|Mitch| 10-16-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BreesFN9 (Post 340071)
Mitch, mind your business read the original post come back with something smart to say with your head out of your ...you know.

So you have to call out Belair57 to say we need a run stopping MLB? That's trying to start something and in my book that equals trolling

Euphoria 10-16-2011 07:20 PM

Painter is going to look like Peyton Manning against our Defense.

|Mitch| 10-16-2011 07:22 PM

At this point in the season, there's not much we can do to improve the defense?

I guess we are who we are, a very inconsistent mid pack D who has to rely on the offense to win games...

Belair57 10-16-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BreesFN9 (Post 340071)
Get a clue read the post, you said clearly no one ever said, and it was funny that the exact same thing was said, LOL

You turn it into about you?

OK, bottom line we need a run stopping MLB, that's all I have to say, been at this forum a long time, but sad to say i will be looking for a new one, turning super negative the last year, no one can say anything here anymore..people jump down your throat?
Been a blast , Go Saint Forever, fix our LB core we may even get another Super BOWL??

Mitch, mind your business read the original post come back with something smart to say with your head out of your ...you know.


Look TOOL....Go back and read the context about my post, and the context of Dannos...TWO SEPERATE CONTEXT YOU STUPID ASS!! WE ARENT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING...JEZZEUS..Just go away man

AlaskaSaints 10-16-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 340012)
I was hoping Kreutz would have to earn his spot back.....he didn't do that today.
Like Danno said no sign of our front four in their backfield and we must have the worst LBer's in the NFL. Don't get me wrong I love Jonathan Vilma but the supporting cast is nonexistent.

Breaking NEWS: Vilma AINT all that.

Alaska

jnormand 10-16-2011 07:27 PM

I hate losing. I really hate it. Fact is that our luck was going to run out eventually. We can't play from behind every game and win.

I'm not panicking. I just hope the entire team is ready to roll next week.

AlaskaSaints 10-16-2011 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 340031)
I am not sure why people find this hard to believe. You're playing your third game on the road, in a row, and it is against a team that was embarrassed the week before. They also were playing, in many ways, for their season. You had to expect you were going to get their absolute best.

Defense did not get pressure today- I agree, but man I can't put this loss on them. We had a chance to take the lead at the end and Brees throws an int in the end zone. Further you turn the ball over twice inside your 30 yard line. We had another 3rd down stop taken away by yet another blown PF call. I mean this one was even worse than the last 2.

Defense was not great today, but that loss is on the 4 ****ing turnovers by the O.

Don't try to pump sunshine up my azz with Shanle in your avatar. NOT going to work.

We are not a good team. It's as simple as that.

Alaska

jnormand 10-16-2011 07:36 PM

Why the hell is everyone turning on each other in here? We lost. We're 4-2. The season isn't even close to over. WTF guys? Chill out. Damn.

AlaskaSaints 10-16-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 340078)
Painter is going to look like Peyton Manning against our Defense.

Yep. Whatever the outcome, he has a career-high game next week. ON NATIONAL T.V. The Sunday Night crew reluctantly has to put a mouth on this weak inter-conference non-rivalry game between one consistent team and one not-so-consistent team.

Alaska

jnormand 10-16-2011 07:38 PM

I'm sure the Failcons fans are loving this thread. :roll:

Belair57 10-16-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 340102)
I'm sure the Failcons fans are loving this thread. :roll:

The only thing I DO know is...F THE Falcons

papz 10-16-2011 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 339979)
Tampa rushes 4, and gets pressure on Brees.

Saints rush 6, and barely pressure Freeman.

If you rush 6 and don't get to the QB, ALL 32 starting QB's will destroy you, and probably 20 or so backups will too.

Our front 4 may be the biggest problem we have on defense, including Linebackers.

How do you go about blitzing 6 and 5 people block them all? Absolutely mind boggling.


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