10 Things wrong with our defense.

AlaskaSaints · 10-16-2011, 11:11 PM

Spot on, my Miss'ippi brother!

Alaska (through Kosciusko)

Budsdrinker · 10-17-2011, 07:52 AM

We don't have a high motor guy on defense. I think we made a mistake letting Hargrove walk.

strato · 10-17-2011, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

We don't have a high motor guy on defense. I think we made a mistake letting Hargrove walk.

Hargrove..Sharper to man the backend...Danny Clarke....Randall Gay...Goodwin...Remi..we supposedly upgraded ..i dont see it...only thing we upgraded was the kicker..

papz · 10-17-2011, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Named Harper?

Couldn't resist...

Difference is Malcolm Jenkins is a free safety and provides coverage help to our corners over the top. Harper on the other hand is a strong safety who plays in the box.

Sorry, I couldn't resist either.

papz · 10-17-2011, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Detroit, 49ers, Bills, Patriots, Packers........ In our current state of affairs, i dont think we would beat any one of these teams. Already lost to the packers as it is. If this defense doesnt figure out how to stop people, im sorry guys but play offs maybe, superbowl? I dont think so.

Giving up hope already paul? Shame on you.

Make the playoffs and it's a whole new ball game. The Colts, Giants, and our very own Saints have shown we can get it down defensively when it matters the most... regardless of regular season defensive statistics.

Danno · 10-17-2011, 08:56 AM

There's really only 1 thing wrong with our defense. The front 4.

If the front four can't get pressure, all 7 players on the backend will be exploited throughout the entire game. Thats why Jenkins, Porter, Greer, Harper, Vilma, Shanle, Dunbar, all got burned throughout the entire game.

It all starts up front. If that doesn't improve you'll see our LB's and DB's exploited again and again.

papz · 10-17-2011, 08:57 AM

Yes it certainly didn't help having Freeman standing still in the pocket waiting for his receivers to get open. You can only stay with your man for so long.

Mardigras9 · 10-17-2011, 09:05 AM

Agree with Danno, front four is getting no pressure. Offense can't have a off day or we lose every time.

Kryptonite · 10-17-2011, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

When the defense doesn't get a chance to catch their breath.... it's hard to look good on defense.

Hear me out.
if Drew and the offense was scoring on each or every other possesion; then the defense is mentally pumped up.

With the offense going 3 and out or turning the ball over as soon as they step on the field; the mental toughness goes out the window.

I place the blame of the loss soley on the offense. Drew was off, most of the offense was off. Our defense is noting to win a game for us, this year. They just aren't that strong.

Now, they had their bad (for some reason the word "bad" just doesn't seem to be a good enough word) I think we will be fine.

I do agree with Euph. I place the defensive play, blame, square on GW. This defense and defensive scheme is not working. AT ALL.

Totally agree. Offense does not help the defense at all. I talk about the defense just a much as the next guy. They gave up 20pts in the first half but only 6 in the second. Where in the hell is the offense? The defense is horrible in the first half let's just face it but they get their chit together when it counts. IMHO, the reason we are down so fast and so often is because they are always on the damn field. It takes the offense until mid-fourth qtr to realize they are in a game.

They/we keep screaming about how hi-powered and potent our offense is. Well, PROVE IT!!!!

Because each and everytime the other team scores, guess who takes the field? Exactly....

Ashley · 10-17-2011, 09:28 AM

Need LB's and help with the d line to start. Once again, this always seems to be brought up, over and over.

10-17-2011, 07:52 AM	#22
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	We don't have a high motor guy on defense. I think we made a mistake letting Hargrove walk. G504 likes this.

10-17-2011, 07:55 AM	#23
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by Budsdrinker We don't have a high motor guy on defense. I think we made a mistake letting Hargrove walk. Hargrove..Sharper to man the backend...Danny Clarke....Randall Gay...Goodwin...Remi..we supposedly upgraded ..i dont see it...only thing we upgraded was the kicker.. G504 likes this.

10-17-2011, 08:31 AM	#24
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,681	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Named Harper? Couldn't resist... Difference is Malcolm Jenkins is a free safety and provides coverage help to our corners over the top. Harper on the other hand is a strong safety who plays in the box. Sorry, I couldn't resist either.

10-17-2011, 08:35 AM	#25
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,681	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Detroit, 49ers, Bills, Patriots, Packers........ In our current state of affairs, i dont think we would beat any one of these teams. Already lost to the packers as it is. If this defense doesnt figure out how to stop people, im sorry guys but play offs maybe, superbowl? I dont think so. Giving up hope already paul? Shame on you. Make the playoffs and it's a whole new ball game. The Colts, Giants, and our very own Saints have shown we can get it down defensively when it matters the most... regardless of regular season defensive statistics. strato likes this.

10-17-2011, 08:56 AM	#26
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	There's really only 1 thing wrong with our defense. The front 4. If the front four can't get pressure, all 7 players on the backend will be exploited throughout the entire game. Thats why Jenkins, Porter, Greer, Harper, Vilma, Shanle, Dunbar, all got burned throughout the entire game. It all starts up front. If that doesn't improve you'll see our LB's and DB's exploited again and again. darstep likes this.

10-16-2011, 11:11 PM	#21
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10-17-2011, 08:57 AM	#27
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,681	Yes it certainly didn't help having Freeman standing still in the pocket waiting for his receivers to get open. You can only stay with your man for so long.

10-17-2011, 09:05 AM	#28
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Agree with Danno, front four is getting no pressure. Offense can't have a off day or we lose every time.

10-17-2011, 09:23 AM	#29
Kryptonite DAMMIT BOY! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Crestview, FL via S'port LA Posts: 197	Originally Posted by SapperSaint When the defense doesn't get a chance to catch their breath.... it's hard to look good on defense. Hear me out. if Drew and the offense was scoring on each or every other possesion; then the defense is mentally pumped up. With the offense going 3 and out or turning the ball over as soon as they step on the field; the mental toughness goes out the window. I place the blame of the loss soley on the offense. Drew was off, most of the offense was off. Our defense is noting to win a game for us, this year. They just aren't that strong. Now, they had their bad (for some reason the word "bad" just doesn't seem to be a good enough word) I think we will be fine. I do agree with Euph. I place the defensive play, blame, square on GW. This defense and defensive scheme is not working. AT ALL. Totally agree. Offense does not help the defense at all. I talk about the defense just a much as the next guy. They gave up 20pts in the first half but only 6 in the second. Where in the hell is the offense? The defense is horrible in the first half let's just face it but they get their chit together when it counts. IMHO, the reason we are down so fast and so often is because they are always on the damn field. It takes the offense until mid-fourth qtr to realize they are in a game. They/we keep screaming about how hi-powered and potent our offense is. Well, PROVE IT!!!! Because each and everytime the other team scores, guess who takes the field? Exactly....

10-17-2011, 09:28 AM	#30
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Need LB's and help with the d line to start. Once again, this always seems to be brought up, over and over.

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