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Its time... FIRE GREG WILLIAMS

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Thought this was the most talent GW had with the Saints, well 1. Sharper isn't here 2. Ever stop and think that these "big" upgrades just wanted their money, the guys let go (Remi, Hargrove) played with heart. Thats one ...

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Old 10-17-2011, 10:18 AM   #41
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Thought this was the most talent GW had with the Saints, well 1. Sharper isn't here 2. Ever stop and think that these "big" upgrades just wanted their money, the guys let go (Remi, Hargrove) played with heart. Thats one thing I see missing from the D, no heart and desire
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:25 AM   #42
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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. I'm 99.9% sure that GW focuses on individual tackling and pressuring the opposing QB, when they are running drills. But he can't enter their bodies and do it for them. I said it once and I'll keep saying it, where in the hell is Vilma? Although, no one on the defense is looking worth anything.

Defense has had one decent game....Chicago. Offense has had one decent game...Chicago. hmmm....


I'm just saying!
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:29 AM   #43
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It's not like the coaches didn't try to make our defense better. I mean they went out and signed two defensive linemen that were supposed to be awesome! Franklin and Rogers. Unfortunately they really don't make much of an impact. The only thing Sed has done is use them as a reason to get fat.
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:36 AM   #44
 
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It's pretty simple... no turnovers, we win in a landslide ... while our defense isn't top five caliber, it does not need to be with our offense. If we cut down on mistakes, it's a non-issue. Our O-line is letting people through, however... is it center related, perhaps? And let us not forget that we also have some young talent on the defense that is still developing.
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:42 AM   #45
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I agree with Danno. Our Oline and turnovers killed us. The defense is pretty bad, but I think its more of a personnell thing. We did not address the needs we should have during the offseason. If we do not get some talent this offseason on Defense I will blame the FO.
I disagree. We addressed all of our needs in both free agency and the draft. We wanted run-stuffers: we got Shaun Rogers and Aubrayo Franklin. We wanted pass rushers: we drafted Cam Jordan and Martez Wilson.

We can only go so far in blaming personnel. We got some great people both in free agency and in the draft. The responsibility falls on Gregg Williams to direct his players to do good things. I think the real problem is that Williams' defense has become too predictable. Opposing teams always seem to know exactly what is coming on every down.
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:51 AM   #46
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I disagree. We addressed all of our needs in both free agency and the draft. We wanted run-stuffers: we got Shaun Rogers and Aubrayo Franklin. We wanted pass rushers: we drafted Cam Jordan and Martez Wilson.

We can only go so far in blaming personnel. We got some great people both in free agency and in the draft. The responsibility falls on Gregg Williams to direct his players to do good things. I think the real problem is that Williams' defense has become too predictable. Opposing teams always seem to know exactly what is coming on every down.
Good gosh, whomever executed the plans to get people to stuff the run and rush the passer did an awful job, because the Saints D is mediocre at BOTH of those skills.

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Old 10-17-2011, 11:10 AM   #47
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Get rid of GW. Thats funny to blame the D when the O had 4 turnovers and we couldn't protect the qb or open up holes in the running game.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:38 AM   #48
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In the opening pre-season game, I could not figure out why we were bringing the house as if it were the NFC championship game. I wanted to see the guys play straight up and see if they could hold their own. It just looked and smelled of smoke and mirrors to me. From that game until now, I kind of see what GW has been doing. Trying to mask our weakness but it hasn't worked. Teams have been exposing us every week. Our defense is average at best which makes our offense have to over achieve each week for us to have any success. We are soft...and we tackle like sissies. Teams and runners are going to challenge us every week and if they can run the ball down our throat and keep the ball out of Brees' hands, it works to their advantage. Most of the teams we play would jump at the chance to just be able to sit at the table with us late in the fourth quarter, for a chance to draw an ace.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:50 AM   #49
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Okay, since we're speaking our minds:

Get the man a bra, for Christ's sake! I've always had a problem with obese coaches. They can't coach themselves into weight loss and fitness but are supposed to coach finely-tuned machines into getting better?

This turd has been relieved of every coaching job he ever had.

He has no FIRE. LOOK at him!
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:23 PM   #50
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I don't care how good a chess player you are when you play an opponent that has most of his pieces and you don't.........it's a hell of a lot harder to win.
I've been saying all season GW is coaching with less than average talent.
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