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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The team collectively lost.. The Defense and Offense Sucked, Yes im going to include Drew Brees, his Bright spots were overshadowed by his terrible, terrible error's, he was Freeman's Mentor a few years back and Freeman i guess learned to ...

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Old 10-17-2011, 04:14 PM   #61
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The team collectively lost.. The Defense and Offense Sucked, Yes im going to include Drew Brees, his Bright spots were overshadowed by his terrible, terrible error's, he was Freeman's Mentor a few years back and Freeman i guess learned to not force a throw if it could result in a turnover while Drew Brees forgot what he taught him..
The student beat the teacher and i feel freakin sick to my stomach for even typing this.
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:35 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by Saintswrath View Post
he was Freeman's Mentor a few years back and Freeman i guess learned to not force a throw if it could result in a turnover while Drew Brees forgot what he taught him..
You must have missed Josh Freeman last week, and well, pretty much the entire season.

Freeman 2011 - 5 TD's, 6 INTS, 62% Comp% and 78.2 Passer rating
Brees 2011 - 13 TD's, 8 INTS, 68% Comp% and 97 passer rating

The student ain't even close yet.
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We have been rebuilding the D line since Payton got here... Hell look at what we did this last off season and they were all excited about what they got done and its all for NOT.

Don't get me wrong we should be constantly rebuilding with the state of the NFL these days but when they pass out the Cool-Aid and I get diet coke then I am going to give them back a serving of hater-aide.

We aren't talking one bad game for the D we are talking 6-7 bad games in a row now. I don't think we should tolerate the same product year in and year out on that field.

Making a change sooner than later is way better. Gibbs was kept around way longer than he should have.
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Old 10-17-2011, 06:16 PM   #65
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While the defense played bad, they only gave up 6 points in the 2nd half.

The offense was equally to blame in ths one, specifically the O-line.
True but the D has stunk it up pretty bad all year. (Except Chi.) I wouldn't want to fire the guy in the middle of the season but I really would like to see a new DC next year.
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Divisive week, that's for sure. Everyone just fed up with underperformance.

I been saying' we need a break out game!

Glad to be here, through it all.

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Old 10-17-2011, 06:46 PM   #67
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Actually, I think it's time to accept the fact that this is the new NFL. High scoring games, little defense and defensive players who can't tackle because it has become a lost art and isn't taught anymore for whatever reason. I loved the defensive monsters of the past but the day's of the steel curtain, the dome patrol, the dooms day defense... well they are dead and gone I'm afraid.
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We have been rebuilding the D line since Payton got here... Hell look at what we did this last off season and they were all excited about what they got done and its all for NOT.

Don't get me wrong we should be constantly rebuilding with the state of the NFL these days but when they pass out the Cool-Aid and I get diet coke then I am going to give them back a serving of hater-aide.

We aren't talking one bad game for the D we are talking 6-7 bad games in a row now. I don't think we should tolerate the same product year in and year out on that field.

Making a change sooner than later is way better. Gibbs was kept around way longer than he should have.
Although I share your frustration and anger, we are not talking about 6 bad games in a row. The Saints defense was excellent against the Bears and the Jaguars. Unfortunately, the Saints defense was truly awful against the Texans, the Packers, the Panthers, and now the Buccaneers.
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The defense has been unable to shut the other teams down enough in the end when we need them to and Drew has to keep pulling 4th quarter game-winning drives, which he almost did again w/the bucs. That is not a formula for success. Defense shows signs of life and then seems to go soft on 3rd downs. They have to get better pressure from the front four. However, nobody's Defense is standing out this year in the other top teams either.
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Euph lost yer mind man....(see what I did there)
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