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Old 10-17-2011, 07:22 PM   #71
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Euph lost yer mind man....(see what I did there)
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:43 PM   #72
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I'm not trying to poke any bears here, but the defense got sold out by the offense this week. Two short fields, 5 drives by the offense of under 1:39, only two drives over 4 minutes.

I don't care if they are professionals, you just can't do that to the defense on a hot day and they have to chase from 2 scores behind.

We should get healed up the next two weeks.
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:53 PM   #73
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Exactly. You can't put Tampa on our side of the 40 and expect the defense to shut them down every time. But... if you're putting all your emotions on your sleeve and fail to think logically, of course it's the defense's fault.
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:56 PM   #74
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3rd and 20 and you give up a first down ? i don't get it. They do that at least 2 time a game.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:07 PM   #75
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I don't want to sift through 8 pages to judge the boards entire reaction to this, but... I agree, but not as vehemently. It's pretty simple for me. He has the rest of the season to try and get this ball rolling on D, but after this year, I can't see him being brought back at this rate. I realistically just can't. We have FAR too much talent on D to look as bad as we have. Our front 4 almost looks like the NFC starters in the pro bowl. Jenkins is a huge bright spot, and Robinson is gonna be dynamite with a little more practice. Just like Jenkins. Other than that, we're getting beat on coaching, not talent. Vilma is solid but has to do too much. He coaches more than Williams does at this point. And though he has had a few bad audibles, he's also bailed us out many times from Gregg just repeatedly calling a blitz. It's almost like Gregg's playbook looks like this:

1. Blitz (Any kind)
2. Zone cove... I want a cheeseburger really bad right now. Think Sean could handle D for a bit?

Again, I don't want to jump on a hate Williams bandwagon after one horrible loss, which it was (we lost to a team that struggled far more, is far less talented, and could still only win by 6 with 4 turnovers), but this seems to be a theme. Get it together Gregg, or get ready to start writing resumes.
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Every NFC loss we get, is bad. There are no gimme games in this league. Anyone remember how costly that loss to atlanta was last year???? Yeah, thats what i thought. It was the difference between playing at home, and being embarassed in seattle....
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:02 AM   #77
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NEWS FLASH we get embarrassed anytime our D takes the field.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:08 AM   #78
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The defense has been unable to shut the other teams down enough in the end when we need them to and Drew has to keep pulling 4th quarter game-winning drives, which he almost did again w/the bucs. That is not a formula for success. Defense shows signs of life and then seems to go soft on 3rd downs. They have to get better pressure from the front four. However, nobody's Defense is standing out this year in the other top teams either.
There are several good defenses this year on OTHER teams.

Watch other games!
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:50 AM   #79
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Defense has not looked good, but it hasn't looked Venturi-bad. Maybe if the defense continues to have problems we consider making a move.

But even assuming Euph is right ... who in the heck would we replace him with? Are any of our defensive assistants good enough?
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:56 AM   #80
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I agree Willams is overrated... I mean Im still waitin on this beast mode D to show uup with our beast mode D-line n beast mode secondary......... ?
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