Maybe its time to get Martez on the field..

jcp026 · 10-20-2011, 11:53 AM

ABSOLUTELY! I targeted him in the draft and was shocked when he was there in round 3.

st thomas · 10-20-2011, 01:08 PM

go back a few post on this thread and read it again why he's not in there .

EARN- IT. no-matter how bad shanle is; why no one is replacing him. i thought someone would have benched him by now.

Rugby Saint II · 10-20-2011, 01:43 PM

He's probably being worked in slowly so as not to overload him. He's got a ton of upside but he hasn't earned his spot or taken it away from Shanle.

darstep · 10-20-2011, 02:18 PM

Our front 4 poor play is affecting LB and DB play.
We get nothing form those guys up front, so the next 3 and 4 have to do too much.
Both Smith and Jordan look like they will be OK, that middle group is just lacking.
I thought Wilson was hobbled, but if he's healthy give him some reps with
Vilma, Casillas, and Dunbar. I still think its useless until we get some control front and center.
I don't even know what to say about Ellis so far. I'm just speechless.

saintfan · 10-20-2011, 02:58 PM

For as much as we complain about the linebackers, and rightfully so, I think you're right. Those linemen we have just aren't getting it done, and it trickles down to everything we try to do on defense.

bbourque5 · 10-20-2011, 03:01 PM

I don't understand how Shaun Rogers doesn't throw people around like rag dolls, He's a freakin monster of a man, I understand offensive lineman are big and strong too, but he looks like the biggest guy on the field every week

Danno · 10-20-2011, 03:01 PM

Whats truly disheartening is that Sean Payton and Gregg Williams are going to play the best players they have and to yhink otherwise is foolish, so that means that Scott Shanle is still a better linebacker than Martez Wilson.

That's sad and pathetic. I thought by week 7 Martez Wilson and Jonathan Casillas would have banished Shanle to the bench for good.

Maybe Martez still isn't fully healed 100% yet?

The Dude · 10-21-2011, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Whats truly disheartening is that Sean Payton and Gregg Williams are going to play the best players they have and to yhink otherwise is foolish, so that means that Scott Shanle is still a better linebacker than Martez Wilson.

That's sad and pathetic. I thought by week 7 Martez Wilson and Jonathan Casillas would have banished Shanle to the bench for good.

Maybe Martez still isn't fully healed 100% yet?

Well our coaches are notorious for trying to force players into working. Look at the Reggie Bush experiment. They are hard headed. Im thinking they are holding out hope he will turn it on but its not happening. IF there is any game to take a chance to switch up some LBs this is it. I would also like them just for this week to play Ingram one half exclusively and PT one half to try and see if the problems have anything to do with rythem. Ingram is our leading rusher btw. I didn't notice that until today. Lets have sex. Not together, just in general. With chicks.

Danno · 10-21-2011, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Well our coaches are notorious for trying to force players into working. Look at the Reggie Bush experiment. They are hard headed. Im thinking they are holding out hope he will turn it on but its not happening. IF there is any game to take a chance to switch up some LBs this is it. I would also like them just for this week to play Ingram one half exclusively and PT one half to try and see if the problems have anything to do with rythem. Ingram is our leading rusher btw. I didn't notice that until today. Lets have sex. Not together, just in general. With chicks.

Maybe the coaches know he has mental lapses that opposing coaches will spot on film and exploit. Until he's on the same page as everyone else and knows his responsibilities in every situation, he's going to continue to only see spot duty.

We all knew he was a bit raw coming in, which is the only reason he was still available in the 3rd round. He's going to need time to mentally learn how to play NFL defense.

jcp026 · 10-21-2011, 09:16 AM

It's time for Martez to get out there and "play his balls out!" End of discussion.

10-20-2011, 11:53 AM	#11
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 950	ABSOLUTELY! I targeted him in the draft and was shocked when he was there in round 3.
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10-20-2011, 01:08 PM	#12
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	go back a few post on this thread and read it again why he's not in there . EARN- IT. no-matter how bad shanle is; why no one is replacing him. i thought someone would have benched him by now. AlaskaSaints likes this.

10-20-2011, 03:01 PM	#16
bbourque5 Registered Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 49	I don't understand how Shaun Rogers doesn't throw people around like rag dolls, He's a freakin monster of a man, I understand offensive lineman are big and strong too, but he looks like the biggest guy on the field every week
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10-21-2011, 01:18 AM	#18
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Originally Posted by Danno Whats truly disheartening is that Sean Payton and Gregg Williams are going to play the best players they have and to yhink otherwise is foolish, so that means that Scott Shanle is still a better linebacker than Martez Wilson. That's sad and pathetic. I thought by week 7 Martez Wilson and Jonathan Casillas would have banished Shanle to the bench for good. Maybe Martez still isn't fully healed 100% yet? Well our coaches are notorious for trying to force players into working. Look at the Reggie Bush experiment. They are hard headed. Im thinking they are holding out hope he will turn it on but its not happening. IF there is any game to take a chance to switch up some LBs this is it. I would also like them just for this week to play Ingram one half exclusively and PT one half to try and see if the problems have anything to do with rythem. Ingram is our leading rusher btw. I didn't notice that until today. Lets have sex. Not together, just in general. With chicks. Danno and jcp026 like this.
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10-21-2011, 08:39 AM	#19
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by The Dude Well our coaches are notorious for trying to force players into working. Look at the Reggie Bush experiment. They are hard headed. Im thinking they are holding out hope he will turn it on but its not happening. IF there is any game to take a chance to switch up some LBs this is it. I would also like them just for this week to play Ingram one half exclusively and PT one half to try and see if the problems have anything to do with rythem. Ingram is our leading rusher btw. I didn't notice that until today. Lets have sex. Not together, just in general. With chicks. Maybe the coaches know he has mental lapses that opposing coaches will spot on film and exploit. Until he's on the same page as everyone else and knows his responsibilities in every situation, he's going to continue to only see spot duty. We all knew he was a bit raw coming in, which is the only reason he was still available in the 3rd round. He's going to need time to mentally learn how to play NFL defense.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,720	He's probably being worked in slowly so as not to overload him. He's got a ton of upside but he hasn't earned his spot or taken it away from Shanle.

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darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Our front 4 poor play is affecting LB and DB play. We get nothing form those guys up front, so the next 3 and 4 have to do too much. Both Smith and Jordan look like they will be OK, that middle group is just lacking. I thought Wilson was hobbled, but if he's healthy give him some reps with Vilma, Casillas, and Dunbar. I still think its useless until we get some control front and center. I don't even know what to say about Ellis so far. I'm just speechless.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	For as much as we complain about the linebackers, and rightfully so, I think you're right. Those linemen we have just aren't getting it done, and it trickles down to everything we try to do on defense.

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jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 950	It's time for Martez to get out there and "play his balls out!" End of discussion.
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