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http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/7057344

I wonder what sort of value we could get Henson for? Maybe if the Texans would just take a #2 for him then we could snatch him up and get serious about the Brooks trade?

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Only problem is that you have a list of about 10 teams that are interested in him. Some have more of a need for a QB then we do and will probably give up more than we would.

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I really don\'t understand the logic behind this sort of plan. Whether it be Eli Manning or Henson, doesn\'t it seem clear that if we get rid of Brooks in echange for a rookie QB that the offense will take a step backwards in 2004?

I don\'t care how good he is, as a rookie any QB is going to need time to adjust. So, you\'re either talking about going with Bouman for 2004 or scraping 2004 as a year of on-job-training for a rookie QB.

I think it\'s pretty clear that Haslet has to go to the playoffs in 2004 so he\'s not going to start a rookie just so the next coach can have an experienced second year QB.

This just doesn\'t make sense for the organization short-term or Haslet long-term.

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Good point. I think the long term answer may be playing NFLE this year.
If Haz had been fired and we were starting over with a new staff, then yes, I\'d agree somewhat.

Brooks is gonna be here next year. We have to accept it. Besides he\'s way down the list of problems with this team. WAY DOWN!!!
The only hope for the BrooksMustGo crowd is that the venomous hatred and non-stop boos increase to the point a change must be made. With Jakes success it may happen though. But its gonna have to get REAL ugly, and I don\'t want to see it.

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ScottRo
With a name like \"Brooksmustgo\" you have to consider the source! :P

Just kiddin\' ;)

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Good point and one I agree with completely. There\'s only one reason I give the Eli talk (I don\'t really think Henson is an option for us) any consideration. Putting a Manning in Black and Gold is a GREAT move for the organization. Not only do they get a hometown favorite that the fans will love and a guy that should be a great QB, but f they can do that and in the mean time rid themselves of a $36 million PR problem, it could be win-win. Don\'t forget, Bouman was the QB that Haslett ORIGINALLY wanted as the starter in NO. There seems to be a perception on this board that Bouman is way behind Brooks. I don\'t know if that\'s really the case. Maybe Haslett sees that fans are criticizing him primary for his marriage to Brooks (true or not, justified or not, everyone on this board certainly knows the outcry about AB). I mean Jake went to the Super Bowl in his first season as a starter, and from what I\'ve heard, Haslett thinks Bouman is as good. That has to make you think a little bit, no? I\'m not saying I support this move, but I am saying that it\'s gotta make you stop and think.

[Edited on 4/2/2004 by WhoDat]

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Great minds think alike ........... :P


sorry i can not allow threads from other sites, only articles, does this make you happy whodat, b/c 08 is a moderator??



[Edited on 2/4/2004 by pakowitz]

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Is that you over at Saint Report 08? Hilarious!

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One in the same .

Like the idea of Henson , although do not know if he is a head case or not .

Callahan was a interesting toss in , am not sure if he has signed anywhere else .

The Henson thought was in the air last night .....too funny

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Two words-

Chad Hutchinson

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CHAD HUTCHINSON
Dallas Cowboys | QB | #7
College: Stanford Rookie Yr: 2002
Ht., Wt.: 6\'5\", 237
Contract Status: Active
NFL Exp.: 2
Born: February 21, 1977 in Boulder , CO


And your thoughts BlackandBlue ???

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They both went pro baseball. Both went a few years without throwing a football in order to pursue their basbeall careers. Both prolific passers in college during their short tenure, Hutch with Stanford, Henson with Michigan. Both were considered potential 1st round picks had they continued in football. I think Henson had better numbers in college than Hutch, but he only started eight games, whereas Hutch started two years. In his short time with Michigan, I believe his QB passer rating was in the 150 range, which would be jaw dropping, except that he didn\'t play but a short stint.

Henson to the Texans
 

So make the trade , cut J.T. and send Henson to NFLE to get him accustomed to throwing a football , might fit with your thought there ???

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From what I\'ve seen in the past, in every case, QB\'s with potential suffer by going pro baseball. I\'ll give this guy 4 years minimum before he\'s ready to make an impact on the NFL. That would put him at 28 years of age before he starts his first game. He could prove me wrong, but history says he won\'t.

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I will take that number . Should be about the time Brooks wants to renegotiate his contract . Cap friendly number looks like it is going to be the biggest issue .Would you keep him as a number 2 ???

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Sounds like we might have a better shot than some other teams. The trade itself sounds complicated. If a deal is not made, he is thrown back into the pool for this years draft. From what I am hearing, if Houston got a deal together with another team, they would need to do a sign and trade, and the team that is trading for him would need cap room from last year in order to trade for him.
EDIT: If he performs well at the tryouts, I\'d give him a shot, but I don\'t want to give away too much. We have alot of needs right now that could be addressed in this year\'s draft. but if the perfect deal came along, and he looks like he has the potential, it\'s hard to say no.

[Edited on 4/2/2004 by BlackandBlue]

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I still think the Eli deal makes a lot more sense.

We could benefit hugely from an intelligent QB.

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I found the value chart that all the coaches use to determine the worth of draft picks, and our 1st, two 2nd\'s, and our 3rd would get us up to the 4th overall pick, max.

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BnB,

What does adding Brooks do to that mix though?

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Have no idea- his name wasn\'t on the chart :P

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What does the chart say if Brooks is worth the 16th pick in rd 1? Two firsts out to get you pretty high in the draft.

Now, I would be more in favor of moving up to get Eli or Drew if we could secure a QB like Brunell (I saw a topic with him as subject, but haven\'t read it yet). He seems like a good QB to have as a leader and a tutor to a younger QB. However, is he willing to go through that again?

Giving up all these picks and personnel to get Eli concerns me on many fronts. First, how long is Deuce gonna hold up. The average shelf life of an NFL starting RB is like 5 or 6 years. He\'s got two already. If we\'re not shooting for superbowl in 2004 then we\'ve thrown out another year of Deuce.

Second, our dependable WR\'s are aging quickly (and some are getting too mouthy). Unless Stallworth comes around we\'re not gonna have any strength there. And we\'ll lose the \'04 picks to be able to add at WR.

Like WhoDat said, this would be a huge PR move (getting Eli). But to do so would really hamper our positioning for a superbowl in the near future. Are we prepared for that?

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FYI- Throwing in the 16th overall pick along with our other 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounders would bump us up to the 2nd overall pick, leaving us 200 points shy of the 1st.

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Roethlisberger would be ok I guess, Not as solid a PR move as Eli.

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QB is low on the position of need chart. Let\'s see what happens at MLB, CB, OLB, CB, DT, OT, RB, WR, and then we can worry about QB, OK? Brooks isn\'t going anywhere. Bouman is another \"Delhomme\" in that Haslett believes he can be the starter (or at least he did a few years back), and supposedly JT reminds coaches here of a young Delhomme in his smarts and emotional level of play. We\'re set - worry about LB or CB. If you want to talk about blockbuster moves that will help this team, tell me how we\'re going to get Woodson or Springs or Bailey.

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...or Vilma, DJ Williams, and Lavalais. I know this wouldn\'t address the CB position, but could you imagine the aforementioned, along with Howard, Charles Grant, Sully, and Cie Grant??? A young front seven that is allowed to grow together like this would make my football pants go crazy. And it wouldn\'t be possible if we traded away all our picks.

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One thing that really has me looking at the draft for New Orleans with interest is Impact , pure and simple . Haslett could be looking down the barrel of a gun if he does not improve the team . If there was a run on corners early , I do not see Haslett reaching for one , the man needs impact or a scape goat to keep his job potentially . Most likely day one of free agency , the Saints sign 2 to 3 players for immediate impact on defense .Haslett has stated otherwise but we have heard that song before .