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Belair57 10-30-2011 03:06 PM

We are NOT elite
 
We lose to the Bucs, and the Rams in a 3 week period. Im sold this team isnt going to another superbowl this year. Im not even upset..I can just look at this game today...plus the way we have played on and off this year and come to the conclusion..We dont stink like Reggie does, but we are not elite any longer.

Our Defense came out the gates ready to play..then fell off when our O couldnt perform..

Just sickening

Maverick2299 10-30-2011 03:10 PM

Indeed it is.

NOS2SB 10-30-2011 03:10 PM

Dude, I have to agree with you. After this performance I'm really questioning our team and the coaches. Sean should have gotten his broke a** down to the locker room at half time and inspired the team. What the hell?

Belair57 10-30-2011 03:15 PM

I was thinking the same thing NOS2SB....Why didnt he go talk to them, take the elevator and a wheelchair and go talk to your team...

Maverick2299 10-30-2011 03:16 PM

The only elite teams right now are the patriots and Packers.

saintsfan1976 10-30-2011 03:19 PM

You guys sound like a bunch of babies.


This team can still beat any team in the NFL.

Belair57 10-30-2011 03:20 PM

true dat maverick....and the pats D is horrible, so I dont know if they are even "Elite" on the same level

Belair57 10-30-2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 343895)
You guys sound like a bunch of babies.


This team can still beat any team in the NFL.

Except for the garbage teams we have lost to in the last few weeks right?? Cmon, We MIGHT squeak out a division title, but this team is not going anywhere...

Maverick2299 10-30-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 343895)
You guys sound like a bunch of babies.


This team can still beat any team in the NFL.

Cant beat an 0-6 team with a back up QB.

But your right about one thing, the saints can beat any team in the nfl, but so can every other team.

An elite team wins on the road. We are 2-3 on the road. Not only that an elite team beats an 0-6 team on the road. Now I do believe the coaching lost us this game, since we still had trouble coming out at half time.

If the saints want to make the playoffs they can only afford to lose 2 more games maybe 3. Not a great position to be in.

NOS2SB 10-30-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 343895)
You guys sound like a bunch of babies.


This team can still beat any team in the NFL.

No sh*t. Just like the Rams can.

Jack Vegas 10-30-2011 03:34 PM

I'm just going to go get stupid drunk and forget this day ever happened.

NOS2SB 10-30-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 343911)
I'm just going to go get stupid drunk and forget this day ever happened.

I'm already ahead of you there.

UK_WhoDat 10-30-2011 03:40 PM

Never thoought we were elite.
In the NFC - Green Bay is the yardstick for any possible title of elite.

papz 10-30-2011 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Belair57 (Post 343883)
We lose to the Bucs, and the Rams in a 3 week period. Im sold this team isnt going to another superbowl this year. Im not even upset..I can just look at this game today...plus the way we have played on and off this year and come to the conclusion..We dont stink like Reggie does, but we are not elite any longer.

I agree we aren't an elite team. Inconsistencies on both sides of the ball and our inability to adjust is preventing it.

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Our Defense came out the gates ready to play..then fell off when our O couldnt perform..
I disagree. They fell off when they failed to adjust after the Rams adjusted to our blitzing. They started running more quick slants and misdirection plays to counter our blitzing and we continue to jailbreak out there. Very bad coaching today... both sides.

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Just sickening
Horrific and embarrassing.

Cruize 10-30-2011 03:54 PM

The Saints win the next two weeks and go into the bye with a firm grasp on the division.

Maverick2299 10-30-2011 03:57 PM

If the saints can win the next two going into the bye, they may get elevated to elite.

Belair57 10-30-2011 04:01 PM

I disagree Mav...when the ONLY hustle you see out of your team is to continue the touchdown streak when there is 15 sec left in the game....then we are in no way elite..Im not saying dont score..Im just saying that the last 15 seconds was the only hustle of the day. IMO

Euphoria 10-30-2011 04:03 PM

Wow why are you guys so shocked...

I mean after all I have been saying that we are the same team that lost to the Seahawks.

strato 10-30-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 343935)
Wow why are you guys so shocked...

I mean after all I have been saying that we are the same team that lost to the Seahawks.


Yeah ..but this one was on the offense...not the D.

TheKillerBs 10-30-2011 04:14 PM

Time to start asking for paper bags at the grocery store again?

jlouhill 10-30-2011 04:14 PM

I think we just flat got out coached today. Plus I think our O-line is still waiting in NO for their flight to St. Louis. They're sitting with the defensive unit still waiting for their flight to Seattle.

gandhi1007 10-30-2011 04:23 PM

We need two OT's and two LB's and we'll be okay. :( Oh wait.....and Robinson needs alot more work!!!

Maverick2299 10-30-2011 04:25 PM

Seems like every time the OT take a step foreword, they take two steps back.

NOS2SB 10-30-2011 04:27 PM

Here's one for you. Where the hell is the leadership? Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone on the sidelined getting fired up. Oh wait, I did see S. Jackson firing his team up and they were up by 17. Vilma and Brees need to step up and be vocal on the sideline.

Euphoria 10-30-2011 04:33 PM

You better add 2 DE's to that list of needs.

I pointed out they keep getting blocked out and can't contain for crap.

Sure enough Jackson's big gains... right at the DE's.

4th and 2... right at Smith. They are pussies.

Haps Biggest Fan 10-30-2011 05:32 PM

no msg

Haps Biggest Fan 10-30-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKillerBs (Post 343951)
Time to start asking for paper bags at the grocery store again?

YOU? For you? The answer is yes. Put a bag over your head. Your comment deserves scorn and ridicule.

The Aints were born out of a 1-15 season after years of terrible losing. If the Saints have ten years of losing seasons and then go 1-15 it will be time to bring out the bag heads again.

I don't know what point you are trying to make with your comment, but, you missed the mark and seem like a Troll.


IN ANSWER TO THE THREAD:
No, the 2011 Saints are not going to the Superbowl. This is not an "Elite" team, but, rather , is no better than the 2010 Saints that lost on the road to the Seahawks in the playoffs. No improvement from 2010 to 2011.

strato 10-30-2011 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Haps Biggest Fan (Post 344060)
YOU? For you? The answer is yes. Put a bag over your head. Your comment deserves scorn and ridicule.

The Aints were born out of a 1-15 season after years of terrible losing. If the Saints have ten years of losing seasons and then go 1-15 it will be time to bring out the bag heads again.

I don't know what point you are trying to make with your comment, but, you missed the mark and seem like a Troll.


IN ANSWER TO THE THREAD:
No, the 2011 Saints are not going to the Superbowl. This is not an "Elite" team, but, rather , is no better than the 2010 Saints that lost on the road to the Seahawks in the playoffs. No improvement from 2010 to 2011.


Hey since your psychic and all..can you give me the lotto numbers?:rolleyes:

Haps Biggest Fan 10-30-2011 06:00 PM

Not a psychic but I've been watching football for a very long time.

I did not see a Superbowl team on the field today.

halloween 65 10-30-2011 06:04 PM

I didn't get to watch one play today couldn't, not on T.V or find stream so I go here for info. it's a witch hunt . I know we lost but damn, I don't want to eat their first born. I get pissed when we lose but I don't think it's a losing trend yet, if it does, I'll want the first bite. Losing sux.

strato 10-30-2011 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Haps Biggest Fan (Post 344080)
Not a psychic but I've been watching football for a very long time.

I did not see a Superbowl team on the field today.


Its a long season still....lets see how it plays out.I saw a team that looked past the Rams...and Ram team that was fired up.

papz 10-30-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 343986)
You better add 2 DE's to that list of needs.

I pointed out they keep getting blocked out and can't contain for crap.

Sure enough Jackson's big gains... right at the DE's.

4th and 2... right at Smith. They are pussies.

I can't remember if this is the exact play you are talking about but I remember on one of Jackson's big gains, Smith had contain and which lead to Jackson cutting back inside and there was no LB or S help. I thought containment was fine... there was no inside/gap help.

strato 10-30-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 344087)
I can't remember if this is the exact play you are talking about but I remember on one of Jackson's big gains, Smith had contain and which lead to Jackson cutting back inside and there was no LB or S help. I thought containment was fine... there was no inside/gap help.


I think it is..and Vilma whiffed

Euphoria 10-30-2011 06:09 PM

The year we won the super Bowl go back and look at those games even when we were down against teams we should have won... we found ways to win... example Redskins.

I haven't seen that with this team since the Super Bowl.

Its time for an over haul somewhere if not lets start rebuilding before we ride this pony into the ground.

Danno 10-30-2011 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 344087)
I can't remember if this is the exact play you are talking about but I remember on one of Jackson's big gains, Smith had contain and which lead to Jackson cutting back inside and there was no LB or S help. I thought containment was fine... there was no inside/gap help.

Yep, Vilma whiffed on a pathetic ankle tackle. It was weak.

Our defense is designed to play with a lead, unfortunately we haven't come out of the blocks well for some reason.

Marlboro Man 10-30-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 343895)
You guys sound like a bunch of babies.


This team can still beat any team in the NFL.

Yeah when they don't read their press clippings and get full of themselves

darstep 10-30-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 343943)
Yeah ..but this one was on the offense...not the D.

Sorry Strato! You can't give up +30 and +150 on the ground to an 0-6 Rams team and put this one on the offense. There was enough stinky coming from every area of our play. I'm not surprised at all. We are poor in fundamentals and it will bite us in the ash again before we are done.

strato 10-30-2011 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 344090)
The year we won the super Bowl go back and look at those games even when we were down against teams we should have won... we found ways to win... example Redskins.

I haven't seen that with this team since the Super Bowl.

Its time for an over haul somewhere if not lets start rebuilding before we ride this pony into the ground.


Yep and G.W was running the same D....better players perhaps?

papz 10-30-2011 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 344092)
Yep, Vilma whiffed on a pathetic ankle tackle. It was weak.

Our defense is designed to play with a lead, unfortunately we haven't come out of the blocks well for some reason.

I agree. I've felt for quite a while how weird it was that we come out so stagnant on offense. I'd like us to come out more uptempo and do a little more no huddle to kick start the offense.

strato 10-30-2011 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by darstep (Post 344095)
Sorry Strato! You can't give up +30 and +150 on the ground to an 0-6 Rams team and put this one on the offense. There was enough stinky coming from every area of our play. I'm not surprised at all. We are poor in fundamentals and it will bite us in the ash again before we are done.


Oh yes you can...we get some points and all this mute ..sorry man aint buying it..we sucked on O...we didnt score till the 3rd quarter...gave up a pick six...come on..tell me we cant move the ball on the Rams....we looked past them...the D played well enough to win..they got the first points..Im not saying we are great on D...but we had plenty of 3 and outs..and so did our offense..I put this loss on Drew...and the O...all of em..


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