problems at the Tackle spot

Rickh · 10-31-2011, 11:08 AM

Everyone,

I was in absolute shock as everyone else was but I gotta say the problems I see are much more specific than I've been reading on the net.

To me it comes down to the O-line and specifically to the Tackles. The Guards for the most part were fine, the new Center is serviceable. But damn we got ate up on the edge with our Tackles. Brown/Bushrod.

That led to everything else. It led to the lack of a run game, very little time for Brees to find #2 & #3 and him having to hurry other throws (never good), the O coming off the field way too quickly and then in turn the D' having to be out there too long.

Fix that, and you have a different outcome yesterday, and probably a much different record this year.

One question, are our starting tackles also in on punts? B/C if they blew that protection then it just bolsters my argument. I can't find anywhere that shows who the punt personnel is though so I'm not sure.

Thanks!

CharityMike · 10-31-2011, 11:19 AM

Your on the same bus as most of us. It is just mind boggling how we can play a team with the best DE combo in the league and not let them get any sacks and then play the worst defense in the NFL and get humiliated. It was a sad day.

Budsdrinker · 10-31-2011, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Rickh

Everyone,

I was in absolute shock as everyone else was but I gotta say the problems I see are much more specific than I've been reading on the net.

To me it comes down to the O-line and specifically to the Tackles. The Guards for the most part were fine, the new Center is serviceable. But damn we got ate up on the edge with our Tackles. Brown/Bushrod.

That led to everything else. It led to the lack of a run game, very little time for Brees to find #2 & #3 and him having to hurry other throws (never good), the O coming off the field way too quickly and then in turn the D' having to be out there too long.

Fix that, and you have a different outcome yesterday, and probably a much different record this year.

One question, are our starting tackles also in on punts? B/C if they blew that protection then it just bolsters my argument. I can't find anywhere that shows who the punt personnel is though so I'm not sure.

Thanks!

We had a backup safety trying to block a starting DE and he whiffed which led to the blocked punt. Should be a fullback or backup TE in that spot.

darstep · 10-31-2011, 11:33 AM

Dr. Jeckle or Mr. Hyde?
From week to week, we don't know who is going to show up to play.
No consistency.
It's really frustrating.

strato · 10-31-2011, 11:35 AM

Both our Tackles need to be gone....we need to fix the 0-line in the future..that's a givin..

halloween 65 · 10-31-2011, 11:57 AM

I think if they play that way again, we want be the ones calling for their heads, the men upstairs with the fuzzy n*** will. If that don't light a fire under their tails, let them ride the pine.

Supertek · 10-31-2011, 12:06 PM

Our defense has been exposed before this and we saw the lack of effort and wiffing on tackles that we have seen in a lot of the games this year. Poor excuse of a defensive line. I also agree with the offensive line at the tackle position but I believe it in general the whole offensive line just could not get it right. I don't care if it is Brees or Brady or whoever was back there you get in their face like the Rams did and it is all but over.

Mardigras9 · 10-31-2011, 01:09 PM

Tackles are the definite weakspot, need the tightends to get more involved.

saintfan · 10-31-2011, 01:40 PM

I've been barking about the OLINE for years. Nothing new to me. Drew makes them "grade" better than they really are. This is not a new problem, rather it's one we've been masking for years now.

strato · 10-31-2011, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I've been barking about the OLINE for years. Nothing new to me. Drew makes them "grade" better than they really are. This is not a new problem, rather it's one we've been masking for years now.

except to one of us..lol

10-31-2011, 11:08 AM	#1
Rickh Not here 2agree Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 712	problems at the Tackle spot Everyone, I was in absolute shock as everyone else was but I gotta say the problems I see are much more specific than I've been reading on the net. To me it comes down to the O-line and specifically to the Tackles. The Guards for the most part were fine, the new Center is serviceable. But damn we got ate up on the edge with our Tackles. Brown/Bushrod. That led to everything else. It led to the lack of a run game, very little time for Brees to find #2 & #3 and him having to hurry other throws (never good), the O coming off the field way too quickly and then in turn the D' having to be out there too long. Fix that, and you have a different outcome yesterday, and probably a much different record this year. One question, are our starting tackles also in on punts? B/C if they blew that protection then it just bolsters my argument. I can't find anywhere that shows who the punt personnel is though so I'm not sure. Thanks!

10-31-2011, 01:41 PM	#10
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by saintfan I've been barking about the OLINE for years. Nothing new to me. Drew makes them "grade" better than they really are. This is not a new problem, rather it's one we've been masking for years now. except to one of us..lol

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10-31-2011, 11:19 AM	#2
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Your on the same bus as most of us. It is just mind boggling how we can play a team with the best DE combo in the league and not let them get any sacks and then play the worst defense in the NFL and get humiliated. It was a sad day.

10-31-2011, 11:26 AM	#3
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Originally Posted by Rickh Everyone, I was in absolute shock as everyone else was but I gotta say the problems I see are much more specific than I've been reading on the net. To me it comes down to the O-line and specifically to the Tackles. The Guards for the most part were fine, the new Center is serviceable. But damn we got ate up on the edge with our Tackles. Brown/Bushrod. That led to everything else. It led to the lack of a run game, very little time for Brees to find #2 & #3 and him having to hurry other throws (never good), the O coming off the field way too quickly and then in turn the D' having to be out there too long. Fix that, and you have a different outcome yesterday, and probably a much different record this year. One question, are our starting tackles also in on punts? B/C if they blew that protection then it just bolsters my argument. I can't find anywhere that shows who the punt personnel is though so I'm not sure. Thanks! We had a backup safety trying to block a starting DE and he whiffed which led to the blocked punt. Should be a fullback or backup TE in that spot.

10-31-2011, 11:33 AM	#4
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Dr. Jeckle or Mr. Hyde? From week to week, we don't know who is going to show up to play. No consistency. It's really frustrating.

10-31-2011, 11:35 AM	#5
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Both our Tackles need to be gone....we need to fix the 0-line in the future..that's a givin..

10-31-2011, 11:57 AM	#6
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	I think if they play that way again, we want be the ones calling for their heads, the men upstairs with the fuzzy n*** will. If that don't light a fire under their tails, let them ride the pine.

10-31-2011, 12:06 PM	#7
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Our defense has been exposed before this and we saw the lack of effort and wiffing on tackles that we have seen in a lot of the games this year. Poor excuse of a defensive line. I also agree with the offensive line at the tackle position but I believe it in general the whole offensive line just could not get it right. I don't care if it is Brees or Brady or whoever was back there you get in their face like the Rams did and it is all but over.

10-31-2011, 01:09 PM	#8
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Tackles are the definite weakspot, need the tightends to get more involved.

10-31-2011, 01:40 PM	#9
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	I've been barking about the OLINE for years. Nothing new to me. Drew makes them "grade" better than they really are. This is not a new problem, rather it's one we've been masking for years now.