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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Crusader I do not agree. Evans and Nicks are supposed to be our superstars on OL but they have a hard time creating push in the running game. That is unacceptable. So, you don't agree with me ...

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Old 11-01-2011, 08:26 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Crusader View Post
I do not agree. Evans and Nicks are supposed to be our superstars on OL but they have a hard time creating push in the running game. That is unacceptable.

So, you don't agree with me on what exactly?


That the Saints should try to resign him?

That the guards haven't been the main problem with the O-line?

That making too many changes to the O-line for next year isn't a good idea?

That Strief and Brown are not the answer to making this O-line better at protection and in blocking?

That the Saints should focus on drafting an offensive tackle high in the next draft?

That having a sub-par season might bring Nicks' price-tag down?


I do agree with you on that the guards have not been performing at the level we all expect(ed) out of them, and that the Saints' running game has been very poor - which is in part caused by the fact that the guards haven't been able to open up holes through which to run.

But, they haven't been the sole reason to why the running game has stunk, because the Saints haven't been running massively better off tackle than off guard. Also I would say that the performances of the center and the tackles might have had a negative affect on the performances of the guards - both in the protection as well as run blocking.

And we should never forget about the play design side of the game, because the coordinators are supposed to draw up plays that take advantage of the strengths of the players they have and, at the same time, minimize the effects of their weaknesses to the overall success of the weekly game-plan as opposed to the D-line facing them on any given Sunday.

I'm all for improving the composition of the O-line, but I'm hesitant to believe that it will be an easy task to replace Nicks with at least as good of a guard for next season without braking the bank or the cohesion (the little there is) of the O-line.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:38 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by FinSaint View Post
So, you don't agree with me on what exactly?


That the Saints should try to resign him?

That the guards haven't been the main problem with the O-line?

That making too many changes to the O-line for next year isn't a good idea?

That Strief and Brown are not the answer to making this O-line better at protection and in blocking?

That the Saints should focus on drafting an offensive tackle high in the next draft?

That having a sub-par season might bring Nicks' price-tag down?


I do agree with you on that the guards have not been performing at the level we all expect(ed) out of them, and that the Saints' running game has been very poor - which is in part caused by the fact that the guards haven't been able to open up holes through which to run.

But, they haven't been the sole reason to why the running game has stunk, because the Saints haven't been running massively better off tackle than off guard. Also I would say that the performances of the center and the tackles might have had a negative affect on the performances of the guards - both in the protection as well as run blocking.

And we should never forget about the play design side of the game, because the coordinators are supposed to draw up plays that take advantage of the strengths of the players they have and, at the same time, minimize the effects of their weaknesses to the overall success of the weekly game-plan as opposed to the D-line facing them on any given Sunday.

I'm all for improving the composition of the O-line, but I'm hesitant to believe that it will be an easy task to replace Nicks with at least as good of a guard for next season without braking the bank or the cohesion (the little there is) of the O-line.

I gave you a like, only because it won't let me give you two of them.

Our guards are very good. They under-achieve at time but they're still upper tier guards.

Our OT's are not very good. Bushrod is mediocre and Strief is adequate but nothing special. Brown and Tennant are still a year away from developing, if they develop more at all

Losing Nicks is a bad idea. I suspect he's the type player that needs occasional motivation via a foot up his ass.

He won't get elite money, but I'm OK with top 10 OG money.
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