Defensive shakeup

pherein · 11-02-2011, 12:50 AM

hmm you could be right. I had no idea Vilma was playing so poorly

strato · 11-02-2011, 12:53 AM

I think J.V could be still nursing that knee....he is a tough cookie and will play though pain...just wis he was 20 pounds heavier and still had speed.

pherein · 11-02-2011, 01:04 AM

yeah, I think a couple brilliant LB's could make all the difference, much like it has in GB
Good site to read if you get bored
Smartfootball.com
should be required reading by any good football fan. I doubt many here has read this
http://smartfootball.com/gameplannin...ooks#more-2555

strato · 11-02-2011, 01:10 AM

I found this interesting...this is kinda what Vilma and Harper have been most of the season...

and quote

"13:42): Poor leverage by both Vilma and Harper allowed Jackson to turn the corner and pick up 10 yards on a run that should have been a loss. Vilma diagnosed the play immediately and was unblocked, but inexplicably hesitated in the hole, allowing Jackson the split-second he needed to break the play outside. Harper surrendered his edge responsibility and Jackson easily beat him to the corner. This play might not have seemed like much at the time but better execution by two of the Saints' best defenders would have resulted in another tackle for loss or at worst a minimal gain. Instead of, say, third-and-20 or third-and-15 from the shadow of their own end zone, the Rams instead had a manageable third-and-9, which they converted en route to the first scoring drive of the game. To me, this was the first turning point of the game.

strato · 11-02-2011, 01:15 AM

Another good observation

(1:36): The Saints talk about "populating to the football" all the time when asked about creating more turnovers. This 13-yard catch by Salas was a case study. A solid hit by Vilma forced the ball loose but because Robinson wasn't hustling to the ball he was beaten to it by Jackson at the 3. Another example of the Rams' simply playing harder and with more intensity than the Saints.

strato · 11-02-2011, 01:18 AM

I could go on and on..form that article...i posted it under this

New Orleans Saints don't show much fire in loss to St. Louis Rams: Film study - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com

pherein · 11-02-2011, 01:22 AM

Yeah and vilma was effectively taken out of the play a number of times by blocking. You really think he's that hurt? and GW has no replacement for him. very interesting stuff

|Mitch| · 11-02-2011, 01:25 AM

I think Dunbar has filled in decent enough for Vilma, when he has too

pherein · 11-02-2011, 01:29 AM

I agree with you, wonder why we don't use him

jeanpierre · 11-02-2011, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by pherein

I dont hate GW strato, so you know. I want him to stay, but I think sometimes he's to smart for his own good. He plays with personal to much, last year we were ranked 7th this year 25th. so we do kind of suck,lol.

I just want last years defense back. I want him to back peddle, and say, " OH, ok that didn't work".

Exactly. Sean Payton is our resident mad doctor - there can be only one.

It's defense, stupid: Knock the **** out of the guy with the ball and ***, ****, or bleed it will come loose.

Know your role, do it well - or will find someone who can.

11-02-2011, 01:04 AM	#33
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	yeah, I think a couple brilliant LB's could make all the difference, much like it has in GB Good site to read if you get bored Smartfootball.com should be required reading by any good football fan. I doubt many here has read this http://smartfootball.com/gameplannin...ooks#more-2555
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11-02-2011, 01:29 AM	#39
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11-02-2011, 06:38 AM	#40
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by pherein I dont hate GW strato, so you know. I want him to stay, but I think sometimes he's to smart for his own good. He plays with personal to much, last year we were ranked 7th this year 25th. so we do kind of suck,lol. I just want last years defense back. I want him to back peddle, and say, " OH, ok that didn't work". Exactly. Sean Payton is our resident mad doctor - there can be only one. It's defense, stupid: Knock the ** out of the guy with the ball and , ***, or bleed it will come loose. Know your role, do it well - or will find someone who can.

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11-02-2011, 12:53 AM	#32
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	I think J.V could be still nursing that knee....he is a tough cookie and will play though pain...just wis he was 20 pounds heavier and still had speed.

11-02-2011, 01:10 AM	#34
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	I found this interesting...this is kinda what Vilma and Harper have been most of the season... and quote "13:42): Poor leverage by both Vilma and Harper allowed Jackson to turn the corner and pick up 10 yards on a run that should have been a loss. Vilma diagnosed the play immediately and was unblocked, but inexplicably hesitated in the hole, allowing Jackson the split-second he needed to break the play outside. Harper surrendered his edge responsibility and Jackson easily beat him to the corner. This play might not have seemed like much at the time but better execution by two of the Saints' best defenders would have resulted in another tackle for loss or at worst a minimal gain. Instead of, say, third-and-20 or third-and-15 from the shadow of their own end zone, the Rams instead had a manageable third-and-9, which they converted en route to the first scoring drive of the game. To me, this was the first turning point of the game.

11-02-2011, 01:15 AM	#35
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Another good observation (1:36): The Saints talk about "populating to the football" all the time when asked about creating more turnovers. This 13-yard catch by Salas was a case study. A solid hit by Vilma forced the ball loose but because Robinson wasn't hustling to the ball he was beaten to it by Jackson at the 3. Another example of the Rams' simply playing harder and with more intensity than the Saints.

11-02-2011, 01:18 AM	#36
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	I could go on and on..form that article...i posted it under this New Orleans Saints don't show much fire in loss to St. Louis Rams: Film study - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com

11-02-2011, 01:22 AM	#37
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Yeah and vilma was effectively taken out of the play a number of times by blocking. You really think he's that hurt? and GW has no replacement for him. very interesting stuff

11-02-2011, 01:25 AM	#38
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	I think Dunbar has filled in decent enough for Vilma, when he has too