Anyone disappointed with Ingram?
 

No..he will get better...O-Line hasn't been good all season...and we use too many backs to get a good gauge on him..and for him to get the kind of rhythm that i think he needs..

I do think Ivory when healthy might be a little more explosive...Ingram seems to hesitate but was getting more sure of himself before he got hurt...

I wouldn't pay any attention to what the critics say...we know the team and how they are a pass first team..

Ingram will be fine..i just want to see some 20 plus yard runs and the tough running overall continue.

I agree.

I think this guy is blaming Ingram for not getting the one yd TD against the Packers.

He should have mentioned that Ingram was injuried against the Colts when the game was over and, IMO, he, as well as the entire starting offense/ defense, should not have been on the field.

Finally, I consider a 4 yd average for a rookie that didn't have any TC to be very good!!

From a Saints Fan expectation, I expected a little more; while it was a team effort, getting stuffed in the @GB game on the last play was disappointing in that I thought he'd be a little more special and rise to the occasion...

In fantasy football terms, he's been a huge disappointment when you consider that on a pass first team and with the touches he's gotten, his production is much lower than projected...

A first round pick, he at least started right away - now let's see if he can be more productive and develop at a rate commensurate with his draft status and investment...

The play vs GB at the one yard line was entirely the offensive lines fault, Carl nicks and jermon Bushrod got owned and there were 3 tacklers in the backfield as he got the handoff.
Everyone expects him to do what he did in college, it takes time, we use a lot of running backs and he will get more comfortable. Give him some time and he will deliver.

Ray Charles & Helen Keller could see that the Packers were set up to stop that run; I doubt there is a RB in football that would have gotten that yard.

If the Saints had rolled Brees and a TE out to either side it would have been a walk-in TD; the 2-point conversion for the tie would have been an iffy proposition.

no... he is a rookie...

Oh..and i didn't read the article..

Before he hurt his heel he LED THE ENTIRE NFL in converting 3rd and short and 4th and short.

If you were expecting Adrian Peterson with the 28th pick, thats a you problem not an Ingram problem.

Many fans have high expectations when you factor in that the Saints Braintrust traded next year's No. 1 and their '11 No. 2 to move up and grab him - so expectations are slightly higher than they would be compared to other Pick 28's...

I'm disappointed in avatars :cool: ... but Ingram... no.

I'd have to ask what's meant by disappointed. I'm slightly disappointed he hasn't broken a big gainer yet, but I'm certainly not disappointed in what I've seen from him so far.

He's got the balance, quickness, and power I was expecting, but just hasn't had one of those WOW games yet. I do think they will come however and had he played this week I think we would have seen a couple big gainers from him.

Ingram will be fine as long as he don't get the injury bug. I think if he stays healthy we will see him with us a long time. With him and Ivory being nicked up I'm real glad we are carrying 4 backs.

I agree. I view Ingram as a slighter bigger/faster/stronger version of PT, which is a great thing. His vision and patience aren't there yet, but they will be.

I actually expected less of him than what he's produced for us this year. So am I disappointed? Not at all. That said, I didn't expect nor think we needed a running back that early in the draft.

If Ingram can develop into PT, I'd be extremely happy. Hopefully down the road he'll get the touches PT never got to turn himself into an elite back for us.

Then Atlanta must be disappointed in Julio

I admit I expected a little more from Ingram than we've gotten so far but I'm not hugely disappointed either. I think hes still developing and by the end of the season he will either shine or ride the pine.

Oh & I hope its not my avatar thats disappointing!

Mark Ingram has been starting for the Saints most of the season. And he's done a great job because he runs with REAL authority. He's a major upgrade to the position, a complement to PT, and insurance for the playoffs so we don't have to scour the free-agent market desperately seeking 4th rate RB's to pull us through the playoffs (like last year).

What makes this article on NFL.com so sorry and sad is they have Julio Jones as an "Rookie Standout" when Julio has been hurt and hasn't done squat this season except for 2 touchdowns against the Indy DOLTS - worst defense in the NFL.

Seriously? So if Ingram was injured this season, hadn't been a blocking back, didn't score at all UNTIL last week, and he came on the field and scored 2 touchdowns last week against the worst defense in the NFL, then he would be a "Rookie Standout" according to NFL.com??

I mean, come on, seriously? Who writes this stuff? Mr. Potato Head??

In this offense, no running back will have a breakout pro bowl type season. Im in no way disappointed in Ingram, I'm disappointed he's injuries cause they will need him this week to keep the Falcons offense off the field. Good thing go 4 deep at running back so let's hope this injury doesn't effect him long term

Nada..Young Man's on the right track to accomplish great things.

So far - no. If he doesn't show more, then over time - yes

I'd say no but I don't think we use him enough.

Well, I have to go with "yes". Not that he has been bad, and he hasn't been used enough for me to expect him to light up the NFL as a rookie.

But, really, I haven't seen him do anything that 23 or Ivory couldn't do. With all the injuries that we had at RB last year, I understand the pickup, but once we got the great addition of Sproles taking Ingram was really kind of a waste of a pick.

I don't think it was a bad decision to take him, especially not being able to recruit due to the lockout, but I don't think it ended up being the best decision. A kick ass linebacker or O-Line help would have done the team a lot more good.

Sorry JP, but if he is only a fantasy disappointment if you don't know much about fantasy football. With 23 and Sproles, the eventual return of Ivory, and the propensity of the Saints to pass and the quality of our receivers plus the emergence of Graham... No, Ingram is doing better than I thought he would, but he should not have been drafted by anyone.

From what I've seen so far I'm skeptical about Ingram's ceiling. While he runs hard, he doesn't seem to have much vision or lateral movement. RBs with that trait are a dime a dozen.

P.T. and even Bell this pre-season have impressed me more than Ingram thus far. And I also agree with Duncan that Ivory has more potential, although he can't stay healthy.

How many carries does he have? Hardly a body of work from which he can be judged fairly. It's a team sport.

I'd have to say that's about how I feel about his display up until now; the injury will also afford him an unexpected break and allow him to adjust to the rookie wall so that he can "finish strong" this season...

Ingram is doing fine considering we don't commit to the run enough. We had to take a RB in the draft because of the uncertainty of both PT and Ivory coming off of their injuries. Ivory's Lis franc injury is a difficult one to come back from and PT's return from ankle surgery wasn't a sure thing either. And Sproles was picked up after the draft and everybody knew Reggie wouldn't restructure so it wasn't a wasted pick. It was needed.

Well looka here...lol..where u been?

He's been getting many touches for a rookie with the number of targets and options in this offense...

As has been pointed out, he's got a very good conversion rate; however, his YPC is not near what you'd like to see (not expecting elite numbers, but a healthy 4.2 YPC with a nice 15/20+ yard run per game would be nice)...

As I was saying earlier, fresh rookie with good college body of work going into this offense, yes I expected stronger numbers; plus, the aggressive move to grab him indicated Coach was going to make a committment to him - which he has...

It's his rookie midseason, so he'll have opportunities to crank it up...

Good Point - We literally ran out of running backs in the playoff game by the second half...

As stated..Ivory is more explosive..sorry...but hey Ivory is a crazy Texan so what can i say....lol

I'm happy to have him, but I'm happier to have Ivory healthy than I am having Ingram at all. Fourth-and-one; I'll take Ivory THROUGH linemen if we are going to broadcast our intentions like we did. Hell, Reggie would have Fleur-de-Leap'd over the line!!!

That finale was the BIGGEST letdown for me... I pulled with my buddies' team at the Superbowl last year, but when it came to the Saints vs. the Packers I knew, just KNEW we had the better team.

Well. We didn't.

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I am not really disappointed in Ingram, but very disappointed in the overall running game. I know the offensive line has had issues this year, but seriously, a better commitment is needed. It looks like the Saints get this and is at least trying to make the effort. Up until a few weeks ago Brees was on pace to throw over 700 passes, right now slightly down to around 674. Still way too much passing. I know the overall running numbers look fine, but I think it's very misleading.

I'm only disappointed that he hasn't been used more. IMHO Ingram is the type of back that needs 20-25 or even 30 carries a game to be effective. He'll grind and grind and grind and then eventualy break a long one.

As I said, I don't think it was a stupid pick given the circumstances. It does seem like a wasted pick though, in hindsight. Ivory's injury COULD have been insurmountable, and 23's ankle COULD have been insurmountable. No one knew we were getting Sproles, and the front office couldn't negotiate with him anyway because of the lockout. All very true, but they were not, they were not, and we did. It seemed like it was needed, but it in all actuality it was not needed.

If we hadn't picked Ingram, the way things turned out, we wouldn't miss him in the least. Just look at the last game. We lose our 1st round rookie stud Heisman trophy winning running back to injury, no one in the fan base or the organization bat an eye, and we go on to rush for almost 200 yards without him. It wasn't a bad decision, but I don't think it ended up being the right decision.

Having Ingram does greatly improve our depth, but we wouldn't be a worse team without him, and we could be a better team with a top notch 1st round rookie stud LB or OL. So I'm not disappointed in him, or in the FO, but I am disappointed in the way the situation ended up because we have a 1st round RB who is 3rd on the depth chart and may not even be better than the 4th stringer.

Dude, you made a great point about the Saints needing a running back in the draft - don't back down...

The topic of Ingram being a disappointment is one that is getting debated; I took the position that his production and numbers are disappointing...

As one poster pointed out - he has lead the league in 3/4 down conversions which has been critical to their success...

It's just that with the opportunities as a rookie he's had and in a prolific offense like this, where no teams are really stacking the box, you'd expect a few more scores and more yards in the stat columns...

As a first round+ pick, he's starting and producing albeit slowly, which is what I expect a first round pick to do...

Until his injury, I did see him start to make adjustments during plays to get those extra yards; I believe he'll get better...

I think if Ivory would start the game with P.T. or Sproles to start wearing the defense down, then P.T. and Sproles do their thing until the end of the 3rd,then bring Ivory and Ingram in to finish the opposing defense would ans should be wore out if not by mid 3rd then the start of the 4th. I feel we actually could have the best run in the entire league. Ingram could definatly be a closer in his rookie year. Some thoughts please?

From a fantasy perspective, he's been disappointing only for those who overrated and over drafted him. I saw people take him as early as the end of the 3rd round and his ranking was right around the 5th round... which was absurd. As you pointed out, in the type of offense we run and the constant rotation of personnel, he was a big gamble and risk to produce anywhere close to tier 2 RB production. If one was thinking with his head on straight, that's not where you gamble that early in a fantasy draft.

To me, Ingram looks like a Ricky Williams type runner. Keep feeding him the rock and he will eventually do great things... IF he can stay healthy.
Unfortunately, he is not healthy and they do not feed him the rock.