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AlaskaSaints 11-11-2011 03:52 PM

Vilma question re-visited...?
 
Can we win THIS game without his leadership? In his career with the Saints, it's safe to say he knows the Falcons offense about as good as anyone except maybe G.W., and he aint playing.

I don't have a statistical mind. Which game was it that he missed this year? Did we suffer?

.........

In the locker room -

"Hey, someone put a warm blood bag into the corpse over there!"

"Which one?"

"The number 58 corpse, you know... SHANLE! We need a warm linebacker body for Sunday."


Alaska

Halo 11-11-2011 04:00 PM

He's missed a couple games this year. He's also played in some where he didn't look so good. He's been somewhat injured.

CharityMike 11-11-2011 04:10 PM

You could tell the last couple of games he played, he was not himself. This is for the best. 3 weeks of rest and hopefully he should be back in business.

I will say, Jo-Lunn Dunbar has filled in pretty decently in his absence. He is getting everybody where they need to be and that's what we rely on Vilma to do the most. We haven't suffered in his loss to much IMO.

Halo 11-11-2011 04:17 PM

Agreed, Dunbar has done a great job and stepped up.

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/J...Ns-vxPQ25l.jpg

strato 11-11-2011 04:20 PM

Shanle has been playing like a mad man to...:)

CharityMike 11-11-2011 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 347571)
Shanle has been playing like a mad man to...:)

lmao.. now your just trying to start mess :nutkick:

Beastmode 11-11-2011 04:40 PM

Dunbar may not have the stoic presence of Vilma but the man can play. Shanle, I don't even want to have that conversation.

FinSaint 11-11-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 347571)
Shanle has been playing like a mad man to...:)


:computer:


If Vilma is not healthy enough to play then I don't think that there's any question about whether or not the Saints will be better off without him on the field. Dunbar has played well, which is good because the Saints really don't have any other option than to start him as the MLB.

GW has complimented Dunbar's football IQ on a number of occasions, so I think he'll be a good backup to Vilma as the D's QB. As long as the D tackles as well as they did against the Tampoons - I think the D will be fine against Matty Lice and the run. It was also exciting to see Sharper at the sidelines during last game - hopefully he'll be able to build up the confidence of the DBs, especially young guys like Patrick.

73Saint 11-11-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 347571)
Shanle has been playing like a mad man to...:)

Funniest thing I've heard all day.! Thanks for the laugh...

halloween 65 11-11-2011 05:13 PM

The linebackers have been playing faster with Vilma being out, until he is 100% and shows it, leave it alone. Vilma is good but right now he can't help us on the field.

WhoDat!656 11-11-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 347571)
Shanle has been playing like a mad man to...:)

I have read a few posts laughing at this, but I haven't seen ANY posts this week complaining about Shanle like there have been after previous games.

Some we have won and some we haven't, so the guy must be doing something right/better.

saintfan 11-11-2011 07:34 PM

Shanle is a good player, but he's not a spectacular player, so when he whiffs everybody wants to bring him down. I like him, and none of our hot shots have been able to displace him either.

Euphoria 11-11-2011 07:53 PM

I have to say Shanle is quietly doing well of late.

I mean he isn't fast, he isn't a lights out LB but he has come on lately and doing an ok job.

halloween 65 11-11-2011 07:53 PM

Shanle can tackle, maybe,just maybe he is rubbing off on the rest of the defense.

strato 11-11-2011 08:03 PM

:D

QBREES9 11-11-2011 10:48 PM

I have no problem with Shanle.

CharityMike 11-11-2011 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 347648)
:D

See what you started Strat... Until I actually see him cover someone and not see him behind the receiver, I will cave in to him doing better. The older he gets the slower he gets and he was already kinda slow. His tackling is ok, he takes terrible angles and he's slow.

Since his inception into the NFL, which is 2003, he has 7.5 sacks and 2 int.

7.5!!! In 9 yrs???? Sadly, 4 of them came in the first year he played with us.

2 picks!!!! 2......but he is doing better...BAAAAH!!! He is crap, sorry if that offends someone.

Need we say more about #58? SO you know i'm not making this stuff up, see for yourself and then come back and tell me he is even a mediocre LB. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...9/scott-shanle

strato 11-12-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 347572)
lmao.. now your just trying to start mess :nutkick:


Nope..looks like a Shanle support group...:)

MatthewT 11-12-2011 01:35 AM

Shanle doesn't have the best talent in the world, but he is a hard worker who gives lots of effort. Believe me, if there is a better option available, that person would be starting. So far the Saints have not found that guy.

Danno 11-12-2011 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 347739)
Shanle doesn't have the best talent in the world, but he is a hard worker who gives lots of effort. Believe me, if there is a better option available, that person would be starting. So far the Saints have not found that guy.

True, and sad. What it means is that Shanle is at worst our 3rd best linebacker.

Hopefully Martez and Bussey develop and nudge him out of the top 3 next year.

Boy, did the Herring experiment fail miserably or what? He was supposed to be the guy to edge out Shanle and I'm thinking he may be the worst LB on our roster right now. And there were several veteran options last year that we ignored.

FinSaint 11-12-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 347618)
I have read a few posts laughing at this, but I haven't seen ANY posts this week complaining about Shanle like there have been after previous games.

Some we have won and some we haven't, so the guy must be doing something right/better.


There is a simple answer to this... it gets tiresome to point out the same thing week after week.


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