"Steady Shanle" Appreciation Thread
 

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Hey why not lol

If he reads this thread maybe it will make him play quicker!

I am not sure I want to slow him down any with a bunch of threads to read.

You got me: I posted I would have slid Wilson to the middle and Vilma to the take Shanle spot, now with Vilma out and Dunbar in all the lb.'s are playing faster, I don't know why. Shanle is a tackling machine and durable, whoever said no one has beat him out is right. He also knows all of our plays, maybe after me re- reading what I just wrote, maybe he really aint' that bad after all.

I do have a question though. If Dunbar and the lb.'s keep playing well where does that leave Vilma when he gets healthy?

Starting Middle Linebacker for the New Orleans Saints.

The question may be will he regain his 2009 form if and when he gets healthy?

He didn't look so hot in several games last year either.

It'll be an interesting draft and off-season next year.

I still dont like shanle... any TE smokes him every time.... every.... time.....

Above average Football IQ
Below average Football Speed

He'll probably make a good coach someday.

Bah Humbug..that is all :bang:

Can't tell if serious :|

I was giving him props..i think he gets chewed up and spit out here too much...the guy isn't that bad..and has been playing better of late.:)

I like shanle. Seems like a good guy and he's been solid for us for years now.. but if he wasn't already slow to begin with, he sure is getting slow now. The fact he hasn't ever really lost his job speaks more to the lack of talent at olb on this team. I do appreciate the role he's played for us and I honestly hope he decides to stay around even after his playing days are over. That having been said, the FO at some point has to really address the position. Not with a lower tier free agent or a mid to late round draft pick like they have for the last 5 years but a legitimate starting quality lb. I like casillas but I get a mark fields vibe with him

Shame on you, Strato, for opening this can.

Shanle doesn't deserve a thread of his own. Especially one with talk of "solid performer" and such.

Slow.
Gets beat because he is slow.
Never the first to get hands on a runner because he is so slow.
Once a ball is caught behind his position... Well, forget it. He's too slow.


Someone please explain his lack of productivity! Seriously, a blindfolded high school linebacker, placed in the middle of the defense, would get a tackle every once in a while. This zombie has less than a dozen tackles in his CAREER!!!!! Who survives that?!

He's like a traffic cone. You have to drive around it, but REALLY? You could just run it over without any harm, right?!

LOL

Alaska

If I could hit the "like" button more than once, I would!!

Oh come on now..he aint that bad..he is a Saint and helped us win the superbowl...i don't think he making a ton of money..solid player that needs to be upgraded...but for now he is all we got..lol

Hey brother i grew up in South Crowley....welcome to the board!

Okay, Strato; granted... LOL

BUT! Explain how he "helped" us win a Superbowl! LOL

He didn't have a tackle IN the Superbowl, nor did he have a tackle in that SEASON. Okay, maybe ONE! LOL

It's truly laughable if it weren't so sad.

Imagine a TRUE, top-caliber Pat Swilling performer at his position. But you're absolutely right in that he's all we got until we GET.

All in fun,

Alaska

I give up..lol..y'all just debate it...i meant no harm...

Wow, small world strat! Thanks for the welcome. I must confess I'm a transplant, originally from opelousas. My wife is from here though. In fact, she also grew up in south Crowley.

I'm with you on shanle. People have been calling for his head every off-season since he got here. But you look at his stats at the end of the year and realize we could do a lot worse. After all guys, there must be a good reason none of these young lb's (must've been about 20 of em by now) have been able to unseat him. I do think he's running outta gas in the ol' tank and its time for the FO to start preparing for life without him.

Yeah i agree we have to get help at OLB via draft or free agency next year..

If, IF we can land a top-rate OLB next year we will repeat THIS year's Superbowl win.

However, we have no early picks, so a Ndamakong Suh is out of the question.

Gonna be interesting at what we give away to get that low pick.

Alaska

Yeah that makes the Ingram pick hard to digest sometimes...he will be good..but there are RBs better or as good that we could have got in the lower rds and saved our pick..oh..well no regrets...like this guy in the 3rd

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...demarco-murray

http://kbosweeney.files.wordpress.co...05/sarcasm.jpg


Oh, and I fixed this for you.

One of the Gregg Williams patented "things" is finding kinda "no-name" guys and coaching them up to be decent for the scheme. All his defenses are like this.... No, Shanle is not MVP or Hall Of Fame type material, but I find it really weird when people get all psyched up over Gregg Williams defenses in one thread, and then turn around and bash on Shanle in another -- it's guys like Shanle who have made Gregg Williams defenses work, every place he's been. My take on Gregg Williams' "thing" at the linebacker position, both here and other places, is that it's based around having one excellent or GREAT linebacker, and then a bunch of faceless no names, who as long as they do their job, with a very strong secondary and a certain type of guys on the D-line, the overall scheme should work.

Of course when it doesn't work and it's directly Shanle's fault, that's one thing -- I'll yell as loud as anybody. But to me, griping about Shanle all the time is sorta like, I start wondering if maybe some people should go root for a different team, one that has a different defensive coordinator and a different defensive philosophy than the Saints. Because Shanle IS a classic Gregg Williams type of player, in terms of pieces of the puzzle. So were Fujita and Casillas and Clark and Dunbar, none of them are big names or "holy terror" kinda linebackers. This is not the Dome Patrol, and it's never gonna be that.

The fact that the DC builds schemes which utilize the player material at their disposal in the best possible way they can does not mean that suddenly a player who's weaknesses are limited as much as they can be by those schemes becomes a good or a great player - the DC is simply doing his job as he is supposed to.

Shanle is an average LB, who - in my point of view - is more of an liability than a strength in the Saints' D. If that makes me an unworthy supporter of the Saints then tough cookies... I'm not changing the colors I wear.

Bottom line is he is not the whole issue on our D ...but get the most blame..right?

****ing Love it!

Naturally he is only one player and definitely is not the reason why the D hasn't performed as well as we all hoped it would this season, but as this is a thread that is only focused on Shanle - I stayed within that framework.

I think that Shanle probably gets more negative attention than he really deserves as only being one part of the equation, but the reason for that could be that he is consistently average (and below) and many of us were hoping he'd move to another team during the off-season, but that never happened. Also, it could be the frustration of none of the other OLBs stepping up to take his place.

Whatever the reason, he is average and he has along with many others whiffed on many tackles this year and I even remember him whiffing on one on a run through the middle in the last game when the tackling overall was much improved.

Do I want to ever play AGAINST Porter? - Hell no.
Do I want to ever play AGAINST Dunbar? - Hell no.
PatRob? NO
Villma? Hell NO

But SHANLE? OOOHHHHH YYYYEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!

With the exception of Spkb25's avatar, every photo ever taken of him was from behind and in COLD pursuit!!!

...But he's on our team. I get it. I just keep waiting for him to play ON OUR TEAM.

Sorry, but mediocrity is what it is. A sickness that multiplies.

Alaska

Ingram was a smart move at the time. PT and Ivory were both injured and Reggie was still on the roster. Nobody knew Sproles would be the best pickup since Brees either. Ingram was a proven back in the SEC and virtually injury free. Once he dropped down that far Saints had to grab him.

[QUOTE=SaintsBro;347846]One of the Gregg Williams patented "things" is finding kinda "no-name" guys and coaching them up to be decent for the scheme. should work.



Ummm.. not exactly. Apparently nobody looked at his stats in the link I posted.
I'll post it again: Scott Shanle Stats - New Orleans Saints - ESPN

Greg didn't find anything with Shanle. Shanle has been here since 2006, Greg wasn't hired till 2009.

To take it a step further on how GW is doing him no favors, if you look at his numbers, they are actually worse the last 3 years than they were before GW got here. Shanle hasn't had a sack yet since GW showed up. Facts are facts..he stinks but obviously our new guys for some imaginable reason can't seem to unseat him.

I love my team regardless but if we pick another DB with our first pick im gonna go ape s**T!!

I am one of the very few Shanle supporters. Yes he's better suited as a back up... no doubt about it. But it isn't his fault no one can beat him out. Because of his football IQ and knowledge of the system, he seems to be in position to make plays but he's just not capitalizing. As average as he's been, we're still at the top of our division and he's the best we got until someone takes his spot. I think it's a little unfair he's consistently being thrown under the bus. He's only one of many underachieving players on defense right now.

Go Shanle Go!!

No mistakes & no penalties.

Many tackles!!

humina-humina-humina!!!

Cubicle-partition! That's it! Cubicle partition!

You place him in the defensive backfield and players have to run around him. Harmless, but he channels ball carriers to other players, reducing the available turf by... oh... NINE square feet!

And if the ball happens to get thrown right to it, it bounces right off!

LOL

This is too much fun.

Alaska

One thing for sure ..He is durable:)

hes been our best backer this season. hes been a leader in the locker room and a favorite of the players and coaches

the only people who dont like him are the ones that know him the least......the fans

He may not have had a tackle but he hit Manning several times, and a couple conveniently late.

:twisted:

Damn... and I thought this was going to be a short thread.

Ha. me 2...Say what you want, but this took balls...:cool: