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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by iceshack149 Greer has played well this season but Harper brings more to the defense. EXACTLY! Harper shows up EVERY week! 10-and-3 today is off the charts. Harper saves our butts every week. Who do you think is ...

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Old 11-13-2011, 11:41 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 View Post
Greer has played well this season but Harper brings more to the defense.
EXACTLY! Harper shows up EVERY week! 10-and-3 today is off the charts.
Harper saves our butts every week. Who do you think is making tackles when the front 7 misses?
Ellis finally had a descent day today, and everybody else disappeared.
Look back at the stats; NO two defensive lineman have had a good day on the same day.
Smith or Jordan, but never both. Rogers/Franklin/Johnson/Turk/Charleston have all been missing in action.
Johnson/Turk/Charleston have the low snap count excuse, the rest have no excuse.
Besides Harper, Dunbar, Vilma when he's healthy, there is no consistency.
We don't know what we will see from week to week.
We just keep hoping "enough" people show up to play ball each week, and play well enough to get us another win.

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Old 11-13-2011, 11:48 PM   #22
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But guys, I didn't see them run all over us today. Running is their "thing" and we executed enough to win.

When the game was on the line, the D-line WON the game.
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Originally Posted by darstep View Post
EXACTLY! Harper shows up EVERY week! 10-and-3 today is off the charts.
Harper saves our butts every week. Who do you think is making tackles when the front 7 misses?
Ellis finally had a descent day today, and everybody else disappeared.
Look back at the stats; NO two defensive lineman have had a good day on the same day.
Smith or Jordan, but never both. Rogers/Franklin/Johnson/Turk/Charleston have all been missing in action.
Besides Harper, Dunbar, Vilma when he's healthy, there is no consistency.
We don't know what we will see from week to week.
We just keep hoping "enough" people show up to play ball each week. Enough to get us another win.
Harper is good at the line no doubt 6.5 sacks leads all DBs..makes those Bama homers proud lol...also look at passes defensed Jabari and Cory Webster are tied wth 15...tops in the NFL

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I don't think the D played bad except for the final drive in the fourth quarter. And Ofcourse we frickin blitzed every time and left the middle of the field open. Our defense held the Clowns to three field goals in the red zone! I'm not gonna ***** about that!
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I don't think the D played bad except for the final drive in the fourth quarter. And Ofcourse we frickin blitzed every time and left the middle of the field open. Our defense held the Clowns to three field goals in the red zone! I'm not gonna ***** about that!
I mean, I feel the same. Look, they bent most of the day but were very good in the red zone until the last part of the 4th. When the chips were down, we executed.

BUT THE PREVENT DEFENSE MUST GO! THIS THREAD SHOULD BE ABOUT THE BANNING OF THE PREVENT DEFENSE IN GENERAL FROM GREGG WILLIAMS PLAYBOOK!
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Ive said that all evening....we gave them all that yardage in the prevent..
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If the front 4 or 3 [scheme depending] could get pressure, Gregg wouldn't have to blitz as much to try and get to the quarterback.

That would eliminate both problems, keeping the LBs in coverage and hurry the QB forcing bad decisions when we are in the prevent...

But at the same time if the D-Line would be getting pressure, he would still blitz because our sack numbers would be way up...
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Ive said that all evening....we gave them all that yardage in the prevent..
ALL OF IT! They got 55 yards on 2 plays. It was like nobody was covering their wide out on 2 exactly plays in a row in the middle.

I HATE THE PREVENT! Prevent D will prevent you from actually winning the game!!
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The push the D-line had when they stuffed Turner on that last play is what I would like to see more from them. They were 2-3 yards deep in the Atlanta backfield forcing Turner to try to make a cut at 4 yards deep. What has ben killing us in the Run-D is the cutback when the whole D overpursuits.
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Originally Posted by strato View Post
Harper is good at the line no doubt 6.5 sacks leads all DBs..makes those Bama homers proud lol...also look at passes defensed Jabari and Cory Webster are tied wth 15...tops in the NFL

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Using that same list (that Harper is #1 on) it shows that Greer, who has played well, is only better in two categories: interceptions and passes defensed. Greer has one int. so far this season but Harper has two forced fumbles.

Tit for tat, I love them both. Two good players on a garden variety defense.
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