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homerj07 11-13-2011 05:38 PM

SMith talks about the 4th down play
 
Falcons coach Mike Smith said the plan all week was to be aggressive against the New Orleans Saints.
So, in overtime, with just a few inches to go he could not go against what he had been preaching all week and dial-up a punt on fourth-and-inches.
Here’s what Smith had to say after the Saints defeated the Falcons 26-23 in overtime on Sunday

Q&A: Smith takes

halloween 65 11-13-2011 05:54 PM

I loved his call, he don't. I guess it took the last defensive play to show them we really do have a set of nuts.

ScottF 11-13-2011 06:10 PM

I was going to start a post titled "Mike Smith is an Idiot", but I'll just pile on here instead.

1- first half, 3rd and short before 2 minute warning. Incomplete pass instead of run by bruiser Turner. Didn't get it, stopped clock before two minute warning
2- onside kick with 4 minutes and 2 time outs against a team that had not run well all game
3- 4th and inches call minutes after just forcing the Saints into 3 and out

there's aggressive, and there's stupid

SmashMouth 11-13-2011 06:14 PM

... sucks to be the Falclowns!

|Mitch| 11-13-2011 07:47 PM

I thought it was the right call, we just executed better.

All we needed was to be in FG range and even though they held Brees in check for one drive already in OT. You don't keep giving our explosive offense chances, hell Sproles could have taken the punt back into range with just the return...

QBREES9 11-13-2011 07:49 PM

he did the right thing he'd had to go for it. LOL

RockyMountainSaint 11-13-2011 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 348405)
he did the right thing he'd had to go for it. LOL

I only have one point to add to this:

SMITH IS A D-BAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

aquaboogie 11-13-2011 08:10 PM

Drew Brees scares the $**t out of Smith. Just told his team that he did not believe in them. Let's hope that they are damaged beyond repair

Beastmode 11-13-2011 08:39 PM

I understand his point on being agressive, the call to go for it was agressive but the play was anything but. It was a basic run play. If anybody was agressive it was the Saints, they stacked the line and attacked Turner. And his point about the play call and showing his hand makes no sense. This game was critical. Whatever he had it was time to use it.

9thWardDesire 11-13-2011 08:46 PM

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...-EPICFAIL2.jpg

Halo 11-13-2011 08:47 PM

I think he made a MISTAKE. Their defense was NOT slowing down and the Saints offense had sputtered in overtime already.

Why not punt and live to die another series of downs. Make the Saints march to a field goal.

If you DO NOT get the 1st down, the Saints are already in field goal range???

strato 11-13-2011 08:48 PM

He had flashbacks of Drew carving them up there last year..lol

Beastmode 11-13-2011 09:05 PM

I agree Strato, that was a pure emotional call. He was not going to lose another game by Payton and Brees eating the clock to a field goal. He wanted to finally be the hero.

halloween 65 11-13-2011 09:27 PM

He was a hero, mine. Thank you Mike Smith.lol

ScottF 11-14-2011 09:13 AM

the real kicker is, so what if they make it?
first down on your own 30 yd line, 35 yards from FG range
risk > reward

AlaskaSaints 11-14-2011 10:08 AM

Play to win, not play not to lose. I was onboard with his decision and was fearful that they would ram it down our throat as they had all day long. Our boys made the stop when it counted, but my confidence in them was not there.

I HATE scary games. I have NEVER screamed at an inanimate object (T.V.) like I did yesterday. Very frustrating.

Alaska

strato 11-14-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 348748)
Play to win, not play not to lose. I was onboard with his decision and was fearful that they would ram it down our throat as they had all day long. Our boys made the stop when it counted, but my confidence in them was not there.

I HATE scary games. I have NEVER screamed at an inanimate object (T.V.) like I did yesterday. Very frustrating.

Alaska


Just play this


SaintsBro 11-14-2011 10:28 AM

Hopefully this will cure him forever of that thing he has about going for it on fourth down against the Saints. He has been doing that so many times against us, and getting away with it a lot of the time, especially in that first Falcons/Saints game in the Superdome last year. Frankly I think it kind of reeks of desperation. You look at the whole series of him vs. Payton and he is clearly getting outcoached.

saintfan 11-14-2011 10:37 AM

After a night to think about it and after hearing his and other's explanations it comes down to this:

Fear.

Look, he can talk about "we should be good enough to get a yard" until he's red in the face. He can talk about liking his guys and having faith in them to get it done all he wants.

It's double-speak because he DIDN'T have faith in his guys, in particular his defensive guys. That call wasn't about faith in anything. Instead it was about his fear of Drew Brees and the Saints Offense.

skymike 11-14-2011 10:38 AM

I just think Christmas CAME EARLY!

Rugby Saint II 11-14-2011 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 348763)
Hopefully this will cure him forever of that thing he has about going for it on fourth down against the Saints. He has been doing that so many times against us, and getting away with it a lot of the time, especially in that first Falcons/Saints game in the Superdome last year. Frankly I think it kind of reeks of desperation. You look at the whole series of him vs. Payton and he is clearly getting outcoached.

CLEARLY OUT COACHED!:doh:

Rugby Saint II 11-14-2011 10:45 AM

Clearly he was out coached.

ScottF 11-14-2011 11:19 AM

again, he risked an entire division-rival-for-first-place game so that he could retain possesion on his own 30
stupid

neugey 11-14-2011 02:33 PM

Smith should've ran a QB sneak and then he probably would've gotten it. The handoff allowed the Saints LB's and Safeties enough time to crash into the pile.

Budsdrinker 11-14-2011 02:58 PM

I love his arrogance.

claus808 11-14-2011 03:15 PM

Colin Cowherd on the Herd this morning explained it perfectly as to why it was a bad move. He was saying the only thing they would have gained is a first down, ON their 30yd line. The risk is too high to gamble on something like that on your own 30. They had just made the saints go 3 and out the possession before.

I completely agree with him on that. Mike Smith was a dumbass for doing that.

UK_WhoDat 11-14-2011 03:57 PM

I think Mike Smith lacked mental stamina. His brain got messed by the plays to send the game into overtime (even though it benefitted the Falcons). And not getting a score on the 1st drive of overtime sent his brain into meltdown.

http://www.joanneburrell.com/blog/wp...in-melting.jpg

SaintFanInATLHELL 11-14-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aquaboogie (Post 348427)
Drew Brees scares the $**t out of Smith. Just told his team that he did not believe in them. Let's hope that they are damaged beyond repair

I disagree with this. Most coaches and players believe that if you can't make one yard when you need it, you don't deserve to win the game.

Punting would have told his team he doesn't believe in them. When you've racked up 4.3 yards/rush during the game, it's not unreasonable to expect to get 6 inches.

I'm damn happy that the defense bowed up and shut them down though. It means I won't have to hear any Falclowns fans crap for the rest of the season.

SFIAH

papz 11-14-2011 05:05 PM

Didn't think about it at first... but it's a similar to what Bilichick did a while back against the Colts.

Honestly, I would have went for it too. If he would have made it and drove down field to kick a field goal... he would have been a genius. Oh well... suckers! =]

strato 11-14-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 349015)
I disagree with this. Most coaches and players believe that if you can't make one yard when you need it, you don't deserve to win the game.

Punting would have told his team he doesn't believe in them. When you've racked up 4.3 yards/rush during the game, it's not unreasonable to expect to get 6 inches.

I'm damn happy that the defense bowed up and shut them down though. It means I won't have to hear any Falclowns fans crap for the rest of the season.

SFIAH


Not really...you make it.. its just a first down..you dont and you lose the game..

Punt and you have a chance at a TO or just all out stop..

Dumb move all the way around..and he is getting chewed up in the media for it...

If it would have been on our 40 ..then it would have made a a little more sense..

strato 11-14-2011 05:18 PM

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