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Beastmode 11-15-2011 06:44 AM

Draft pick(s) for Reggie?
 
He's on pace for 800+ but a good game or two, he could seriously get 1,000. I'm assuming reaching that earmark could have an impact on what we get...I don't know but if we get a couple of picks maybe a 2 and 4 it would be one of the best trades the Saints have ever made.

Danno 11-15-2011 07:47 AM

The rumor was if he played well we'd get a 4th. But that was probably just speculation.

CharityMike 11-15-2011 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 349283)
The rumor was if he played well we'd get a 4th. But that was probably just speculation.

And lets be honest, who expected him to play well?

Beastmode 11-15-2011 08:14 AM

That's the thing, what is playing well, his best to date is under 600 yds rushing. I find it hard to believe Loomis would make light of hitting the 1,000 mark in the contract.

Jamessr 11-15-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 349285)
And lets be honest, who expected him to play well?

I didn't but I'm alot happier with Sproles

Beastmode 11-15-2011 08:59 AM

I guess the details will be locked until draft time. No big deal, it would just be fun knowing we are indeed getting a bigger piece of pecan pie.

FinSaint 11-15-2011 09:29 AM

Somehow, I've thought to myself that the Saints would get - in the best possible scenario - a 5th round pick if Bush meets the performance requirements.

I'd be happy with a 5th, because lets face it, the Saints had to get rid off Bush's contract and they already got Amaya from MIA, who has been a good addition to the ST coverage.

jcp026 11-15-2011 09:34 AM

Highly doubt there's a 2nd rounder involved but a man can dream.

Danno 11-15-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 349305)
Somehow, I've thought to myself that the Saints would get - in the best possible scenario - a 5th round pick if Bush meets the performance requirements.

I'd be happy with a 5th, because lets face it, the Saints had to get rid off Bush's contract and they already got Amaya from MIA, who has been a good addition to the ST coverage.

A 7th would have been more than necessary. Reggie could have simply forced the Saints to release him and Miami wouldn't have lost a pick.

We stole that pick, whatever it turns out to be.

FinSaint 11-15-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 349320)
A 7th would have been more than necessary. Reggie could have simply forced the Saints to release him and Miami wouldn't have lost a pick.

We stole that pick, whatever it turns out to be.


True, but in that case other teams could've made offers to Bush, which could've ended up (artificially) increasing his market worth, which in turn could've caused him to sign elsewhere or Miami having to offer him more contract-wise than the calculated worth of a given draft pick is to that franchise.

So, all in all, I think it was a good deal for MIA as well as for the Saints. And I think that if there's someone who lost in that deal it would be Bush himself, but that is hard to estimate because he never entered the FA market and so we can never know what his market value would've been.

If you look at it from that standpoint - the Saints franchise owe gratitude toward Bush for handling the situation as he did, nevermind what he has said since in the media.

Mardigras9 11-15-2011 09:42 PM

Bush has had two good games in a row. What time is it.............it's injury time.

Danno 11-16-2011 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 349336)
True, but in that case other teams could've made offers to Bush, which could've ended up (artificially) increasing his market worth, which in turn could've caused him to sign elsewhere or Miami having to offer him more contract-wise than the calculated worth of a given draft pick is to that franchise.

So, all in all, I think it was a good deal for MIA as well as for the Saints. And I think that if there's someone who lost in that deal it would be Bush himself, but that is hard to estimate because he never entered the FA market and so we can never know what his market value would've been.

If you look at it from that standpoint - the Saints franchise owe gratitude toward Bush for handling the situation as he did, nevermind what he has said since in the media.

Thats my point. Bush had all the leverage to get the most money he could, and he still could have chosen the Dolphins if he wanted to.
Again, we stole that pick, with a Bush assist. We were lucky to get anything at all for him.

FinSaint 11-16-2011 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 349632)
Thats my point. Bush had all the leverage to get the most money he could, and he still could have chosen the Dolphins if he wanted to.
Again, we stole that pick, with a Bush assist. We were lucky to get anything at all for him.


Yes, you are correct, but that doesn't change the fact that MIA couldn't know that for sure, and we can't know for sure if MIA was really where Bush wanted to go above any other potential suitors.

They wanted Bush, probably more for his star power than actual ability, and giving up a ST player and a possible draft pick in order to secure the rights to negotiate with Bush without any outside interference was in all likelihood a good decision on their part, which may have actually saved them money or other commodities.

Therefore, I wouldn't say that the Saints "stole" the pick - if there will be any in the end - because it was payment for a service rendered as I described above.

SmashMouth 11-16-2011 10:02 AM

It could be worse for him.... he could have gone to Philly .... LOL

Maybe there is some obscure clause upping the ante to a first round pick .... :awe:

halloween 65 11-16-2011 10:18 AM

If you count Sproles who took his place,{and locker, ha, ha.} we got Amaya for the trade and another pick,to me thats 3 for 1, I can live with that.

SAINTstunna 11-16-2011 10:29 AM

I actually expected him to have a good season because of him playing with a "chip on his shoulder." Reggie Bust has been handed everything on a platter his whole life.

biloxi-indian 11-16-2011 10:44 AM

According to the AP at the time of the trade;

"The Dolphins completed a trade for Bush on Thursday by negotiating a new contract with him. Saints coach Sean Payton confirmed the deal, which sends reserve safety Jonathon Amaya(notes) to New Orleans and also involves an exchange of undisclosed draft picks."

Dolphins trade for Reggie Bush - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

So it appears the Saints and Miami will exchange draft picks most likely (late round picks) based on Bush's production in Miami.

st thomas 11-16-2011 10:46 AM

who are yall takin bout? lol

homerj07 11-16-2011 11:28 AM

WHo cares - Anyting we get (with the additon of Sproles) is better than Reggie ever was.

I dont think he handled it well - I think he acted like a spoiled child (which he basically is)

AlaskaSaints 11-16-2011 11:33 AM

Somewhat depends on how crappy the Dolphins finish the season. The crappier, the better for us as they will be in the higher picks. Right?

Reggie gets touchdowns but he can't alone product wins.

Alaska

Rugby Saint II 11-16-2011 11:38 AM

Just having him gone is worth the price.

Beastmode 11-16-2011 12:38 PM

I guess we will have to wait to find out what the pick(s) exchange involves but I think Bush's performance will be a factor. Either way, his stats or their record, we move up quite a bit in the late rounds the way things are heading.

QBREES9 11-16-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 349588)
Bush has had two good games in a row. What time is it.............it's injury time.

Just sit back and wait it's coming.


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