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Seer1 11-15-2011 12:46 PM

Didn't Execute? My A**!
 
Over on ESPN Smith is claiming his fourth and nada call was the right one. "We just didn't execute," he said. Didn't execute? My a**! We know who executed! Who Dat?

With us up by ten late in the fourth, it was a play that really shouldn't have had to happen. But now, I'm kinda glad it did.

Halo 11-15-2011 12:49 PM

It's called CYA for him. Stupid mistake. He was trying to be a hero. He'll never make decisions a la Sean Payton.

Srgt. Hulka 11-15-2011 02:06 PM

Smith is lucky Atlanta's General Manager didn't execute his a** to the unemployment line.

Mardigras9 11-15-2011 02:20 PM

Don't think it was as bad of call as they make it seam. If it had worked, he would have been a hero. Playing the percentages for the day, you could justify it. We such at stopping the run, he should have spread the field more however. It was definitely an early Xmas gift.

SaintsBro 11-15-2011 03:01 PM

I hope he will continue to be spooked by it, again in the future, whenever he plays the Saints, here and at home.

I hope this will cause him to lose his courage in other situations against us -- I hope that thinking about the drubbing and criticism he has received, will cause him to send the punting unit out more often, in other game situations. Once Smith is afraid to take chances, for fear of media and fan backlash, this will render the Falcons incapable of sustaining those long, time-consuming drives against us; drives they can't really pull off without that desperate gambler's mentality, where it seems like they have been going for it on 4th down pretty regularly against us, and our defense can't get them off the field.... Go back and look at how many times the Falcons have been doing that to us on 4th down, in recent games. How many drives turned into 7's instead of 3's, or points instead of no points, because they WENT FOR IT ON 4TH DOWN and got it. It's one of the real reasons why these games have even been close! Without those points gotten by risking going for it, on multiple 4th downs, the Falcons would trail in these games by 7 or 10, at least.

Criticism and doubt about taking big risks on 4th down, now means more scrutiny on every decision Smith makes, more pressure on Ryan on 3rd down, more fan doubts and worries about how Turner might slowly be losing a step, more dislike for Smith on talk radio and more fear of failure in the Falcons locker room and all throughout the team... I hope Smith loses a LOT of sleep over it, and has bad dreams about that play, over and over and over. And I hope he gets roasted in the media about it for the rest of the season.

I hope Smith comes into the Superdome in December feeling meek, timid, and uncertain of himself, feeling anxious, knowing that if he makes ONE more stupid boneheaded decision, against the Saints, and it backfires, his job in Atlanta is DONE. I can't wait to see him punt instead of going for it in the Superdome. Let him NOT call that fake field goal, that hail Mary or that risky trick play that might cost him his job. Let him not be able to decide what to do on short yardage, and end up burning a needless time-out. Do you see why this play was so awesome?

And Payton will probably either find some way to scheme Smith into doing something really stupid, or else he will smell the fear of failure on the other sideline and just bully him all day. Because if the game is on the line and Smith makes ONE more risky coaching decision that backfires on him, he is HISTORY. Just watch.

JoanieNTX 11-15-2011 03:04 PM

A friend of mine on Facebook is an Atlanta fan. They are putting the blame squarely on Mike Smith's head! They want a new coaching staff, from what he says. Just sayin. I don't blame them! ;)

AlaskaSaints 11-15-2011 03:04 PM

They made the obvious mistake of making it obvious what they intended to do. A screen to Shanle's side would have gotten them fifteen instead of inches.

Alaska

Kryptonite 11-15-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 349424)
Don't think it was as bad of call as they make it seam. If it had worked, he would have been a hero. Playing the percentages for the day, you could justify it. We such at stopping the run, he should have spread the field more however. It was definitely an early Xmas gift.


I don't think it was a bad call either. When they were lining up to punt it I was telling the wife, "He better not punt that ball. If he does game over." I think the push that the defensive line got contributed to the bad execution. Turner did not know what to do once he saw the gold helmets over the line that soon. He just turned his back and prayed. LOL!

GAwhodat 11-15-2011 03:56 PM

If it was me I would have gone for it as well. Keep in mind guys this is coming from a team that did a offside kick in the super bowl? If that play would have failed would you have asked for Peytons head??? Something to think about?

AsylumGuido 11-15-2011 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 349424)
Don't think it was as bad of call as they make it seam. If it had worked, he would have been a hero. Playing the percentages for the day, you could justify it. We such at stopping the run, he should have spread the field more however. It was definitely an early Xmas gift.

No, if it had worked they would have had a 1st down at their own 30 yard line and would have still had about 40 yards to go to get into long FG range. Very little reward when the risk of NOT making it was almost a sure loss.

It was a stupid call plain and simple.

Beastmode 11-15-2011 05:17 PM

I'm just not an advocate of 4th down attempts from more than a couple of inches, unless it is absolutely necessary. This was totally unecessary. Their defense just held the Saints. Like Will Smith said, if Payton did that to them it's a little disturbing (paraphrasing).

skymike 11-15-2011 05:17 PM

ha ha ha hahaha hahah hahahahaha
ha hahahaha ha http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...22bank.480.jpg

WhoDat!656 11-15-2011 06:46 PM

Question for all that agreed/said it was the right call:


If Mike Smith had tried to convert that 4th & inches from his own 29 yd line in the 3rd quarter would you still have thought it was a good call?

GAwhodat 11-15-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 349543)
Question for all that agreed/said it was the right call:


If Mike Smith had tried to convert that 4th & inches from his own 29 yd line in the 3rd quarter would you still have thought it was a good call?

3rd quarter I prolly wouldn't. But 3rd quarter and sudden death OT is 2 different animals.

WhoDat!656 11-15-2011 08:11 PM

True. But in the 3rd quarter, if the Saints score, you still get the ball back.

neugey 11-15-2011 08:25 PM

I still stand by my originial position ... 9 out of 10 high school coaches in Smith's position would've gotten that first down by simply calling a QB sneak.

skymike 11-16-2011 06:12 AM

some of you need to heed the words of the great Madden.

jeanpierre 11-16-2011 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 349623)
some of you need to heed the words of the great Madden.

There is only one word Mike Smith and the Falcons need to know...

O-W-N-E-D

fhotard 11-16-2011 07:42 AM

Honestly, I think going for it was the right decision. It was only "inches" and our beloved Saints are pretty weak at stopping the run. Where Smith made a mistake, I think, was in the play called.

They lined up showing a run up the gut. The Saints stacked the box. Even at that, I'm thinking they're going to get the inches needed.
I'm very happy that the Saints D surprised me and held strong on that down.

AsylumGuido 11-16-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 349567)
I still stand by my originial position ... 9 out of 10 high school coaches in Smith's position would've gotten that first down by simply calling a QB sneak.

9 out of 10 high school coaches wouldn't have made the bonehead call to go for it in the first place. It was a stupid high risk/low reward move that cost them an important game. There is no way Payton would ever be that stupid. In fact, on the previous possession in OT the Saints had a 4th and one from their 38 yard line. Did Payton go for it? No. He did the smart thing and punted.

SaintsBro 11-16-2011 10:12 AM

One other thing to consider about that call: by using the time out there, the Falcons basically lost the opportunity to try and draw the Saints defense offsides without even having to snap the ball. Coming back from a time out, everybody on the defense has huddled up, talked it over, which kinda calms them down and clears their head, making it very hard to draw a defense off with a snap count in that situation -- but if the defense is skittish/panicked, and on their heels, not sure what is going on, and you're unexpectedly setting up at the line to go for it, it is MUCH easier to get them to jump.

homerj07 11-16-2011 01:10 PM

Hey - it failed. End of story.
I don't see Smith going anywhere soon. Clowns fans want wins just like any other team. A failure to exeucte in any number of plays led to this for Smith & for us. Our play calls SUCKED in thier final drive of regulation & we are (most of us) pissed at GW because of it!!

skymike 11-16-2011 05:53 PM

Did I mention....

hahaha hahahaha
hahaha hahahahahahhaha!
http://www.thereformedbroker.com/wp-...-bank.jpg?w=72

Sure, Breaux. Geaux for it on 4th on your own
30. Really, you can make it. What could go wrong?

Seer1 11-17-2011 07:10 AM

Just as long as we realize they'll be bringin' it to the next meet. They went home from this one squat-peein' all the way. Nobody likes that feelin'. They'll show up at the Dome with a whole lot to prove and we'd better be ready for it.

Rugby Saint II 11-18-2011 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 349941)
Just as long as we realize they'll be bringin' it to the next meet. They went home from this one squat-peein' all the way. Nobody likes that feelin'. They'll show up at the Dome with a whole lot to prove and we'd better be ready for it.

Remember confidence not ****iness wins ball games.:bng:


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