Jimmy Graham contract

Memnoch_TP · 11-16-2011, 12:44 PM

He is way outperforming that contract. Just because we CAN screw him over doesn't mean it is a good idea to do it. SD didn't do themselves any favors with the way they handled Vincent Jackson. We don't need to make that kind of statement to our current or future players, nor do we want our players thinking that they are being horribly underpaid (especially when they are being horribly underpaid compared to their output).

Rugby Saint II · 11-16-2011, 01:02 PM

He'll be wanting to restructure his contract soon if he continues on this pace.

jnormand · 11-16-2011, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

He'll be wanting to restructure his contract soon if he continues on this pace.

That's what I was thinking. He's not going to be "humble" like Drew. I love Graham but I'm sure he's gonna want a raise after this season and he'll prob throw a **** fit if it doesn't happen.

SaintsBro · 11-16-2011, 05:03 PM

What is it exactly that is making people think that Graham is going to act like that? Has he done anything to indicate he will, or said anything? Does he have an attitude problem? Is he a diva or a selfish player? Is he unhappy here? Someone please give a specific example of something about him, that makes you think this about him. NOT a situation or example of a bad situation at another team. This is not San Diego's front office.

Other Saints players have played for the contracts they signed, and not thrown hissy fits or tantrums one year into their four-year deal. Do our players DO that? I'm just curious, what makes you predict that he is going to act this way?

strato · 11-16-2011, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

What is it exactly that is making people think that Graham is going to act like that? Has he done anything to indicate he will, or said anything? Does he have an attitude problem? Is he a diva or a selfish player? Is he unhappy here? Someone please give a specific example of something about him, that makes you think this about him. NOT a situation or example of a bad situation at another team. This is not San Diego's front office.

Other Saints players have played for the contracts they signed, and not thrown hissy fits or tantrums one year into their four-year deal. Do our players DO that? I'm just curious, what makes you predict that he is going to act this way?

We have psychics all over the board..you didn't know?....

jnormand · 11-17-2011, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

What is it exactly that is making people think that Graham is going to act like that? Has he done anything to indicate he will, or said anything? Does he have an attitude problem? Is he a diva or a selfish player? Is he unhappy here? Someone please give a specific example of something about him, that makes you think this about him. NOT a situation or example of a bad situation at another team. This is not San Diego's front office.

Other Saints players have played for the contracts they signed, and not thrown hissy fits or tantrums one year into their four-year deal. Do our players DO that? I'm just curious, what makes you predict that he is going to act this way?

No no. I didn't mean it to sound like he will be a jerk about his contract. I guess I'm more AFRAID that he may because he has been so stellar. He's just not the quiet type and Drew is always saying that Jimmy needs to be humble. Hell he even put that on his Facebook.

I guess i hope Jimmy is as much a team player as Colston and Drew.

goguxxx · 11-17-2011, 01:18 AM

Lets get real ,if Graham wouldnt have been clutch we would still have Shockey . I mean,the guy is just good,not that Shockey isnt,but Graham is way better. He showed a few butter fingers last Sunday ,but you cant catch them all,he was just rushing turning his head while still in the process of the catch.
So yuh,pay the man.But hes not the only guy that showed ET performances and didnt get paid,look at Forte .

strato · 11-17-2011, 01:26 AM

I think Jimmy gets paid..but lets see him the rest of the year...we will have to shell out some bucks to keep the core of this team together..were not only going to need Graham to be loyal, but a few others to..

MatthewT · 11-17-2011, 02:48 AM

Graham is under contract for 4 years, starting last year. My take on it is let him play it out for another year and if he does as well in 2012 as he has done so far in 2011, then rip the final year and sign him to a new deal. Until then, I wouldn't jump the gun on it. The chances of injury in the NFL is way too significant to justify redoing a contract in mid term. I don't think Graham is the type to hold out, but if he does, let him sit and think about it. The TE position is pure luxury in the Saints offensive system, not necessarily a true necessity.

Memnoch_TP · 11-17-2011, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

What is it exactly that is making people think that Graham is going to act like that? Has he done anything to indicate he will, or said anything? Does he have an attitude problem? Is he a diva or a selfish player? Is he unhappy here? Someone please give a specific example of something about him, that makes you think this about him. NOT a situation or example of a bad situation at another team. This is not San Diego's front office.

Other Saints players have played for the contracts they signed, and not thrown hissy fits or tantrums one year into their four-year deal. Do our players DO that? I'm just curious, what makes you predict that he is going to act this way?

I didn't say we had SD's front office. VJ was a good comparison point though.

As for what makes people think he is going to act that way? He is from "The U", that's why.

11-16-2011, 03:30 PM	#13
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II He'll be wanting to restructure his contract soon if he continues on this pace. That's what I was thinking. He's not going to be "humble" like Drew. I love Graham but I'm sure he's gonna want a raise after this season and he'll prob throw a **** fit if it doesn't happen.

11-16-2011, 09:07 PM	#15
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by SaintsBro What is it exactly that is making people think that Graham is going to act like that? Has he done anything to indicate he will, or said anything? Does he have an attitude problem? Is he a diva or a selfish player? Is he unhappy here? Someone please give a specific example of something about him, that makes you think this about him. NOT a situation or example of a bad situation at another team. This is not San Diego's front office. Other Saints players have played for the contracts they signed, and not thrown hissy fits or tantrums one year into their four-year deal. Do our players DO that? I'm just curious, what makes you predict that he is going to act this way? We have psychics all over the board..you didn't know?....

11-17-2011, 12:43 AM	#16
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Originally Posted by SaintsBro What is it exactly that is making people think that Graham is going to act like that? Has he done anything to indicate he will, or said anything? Does he have an attitude problem? Is he a diva or a selfish player? Is he unhappy here? Someone please give a specific example of something about him, that makes you think this about him. NOT a situation or example of a bad situation at another team. This is not San Diego's front office. Other Saints players have played for the contracts they signed, and not thrown hissy fits or tantrums one year into their four-year deal. Do our players DO that? I'm just curious, what makes you predict that he is going to act this way? No no. I didn't mean it to sound like he will be a jerk about his contract. I guess I'm more AFRAID that he may because he has been so stellar. He's just not the quiet type and Drew is always saying that Jimmy needs to be humble. Hell he even put that on his Facebook. I guess i hope Jimmy is as much a team player as Colston and Drew.

11-17-2011, 05:24 AM	#20
Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Originally Posted by SaintsBro What is it exactly that is making people think that Graham is going to act like that? Has he done anything to indicate he will, or said anything? Does he have an attitude problem? Is he a diva or a selfish player? Is he unhappy here? Someone please give a specific example of something about him, that makes you think this about him. NOT a situation or example of a bad situation at another team. This is not San Diego's front office. Other Saints players have played for the contracts they signed, and not thrown hissy fits or tantrums one year into their four-year deal. Do our players DO that? I'm just curious, what makes you predict that he is going to act this way? I didn't say we had SD's front office. VJ was a good comparison point though. As for what makes people think he is going to act that way? He is from "The U", that's why.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	What is it exactly that is making people think that Graham is going to act like that? Has he done anything to indicate he will, or said anything? Does he have an attitude problem? Is he a diva or a selfish player? Is he unhappy here? Someone please give a specific example of something about him, that makes you think this about him. NOT a situation or example of a bad situation at another team. This is not San Diego's front office. Other Saints players have played for the contracts they signed, and not thrown hissy fits or tantrums one year into their four-year deal. Do our players DO that? I'm just curious, what makes you predict that he is going to act this way?

11-17-2011, 01:18 AM	#17
goguxxx Registered Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Romania Posts: 63	Lets get real ,if Graham wouldnt have been clutch we would still have Shockey . I mean,the guy is just good,not that Shockey isnt,but Graham is way better. He showed a few butter fingers last Sunday ,but you cant catch them all,he was just rushing turning his head while still in the process of the catch. So yuh,pay the man.But hes not the only guy that showed ET performances and didnt get paid,look at Forte .

11-17-2011, 01:26 AM	#18
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	I think Jimmy gets paid..but lets see him the rest of the year...we will have to shell out some bucks to keep the core of this team together..were not only going to need Graham to be loyal, but a few others to..

11-17-2011, 02:48 AM	#19
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,705	Graham is under contract for 4 years, starting last year. My take on it is let him play it out for another year and if he does as well in 2012 as he has done so far in 2011, then rip the final year and sign him to a new deal. Until then, I wouldn't jump the gun on it. The chances of injury in the NFL is way too significant to justify redoing a contract in mid term. I don't think Graham is the type to hold out, but if he does, let him sit and think about it. The TE position is pure luxury in the Saints offensive system, not necessarily a true necessity.