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Danno 11-25-2011 12:41 PM

Malcolm Jenkins looks up to Suh after that play.. WTF???
 
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@MalcolmJenkins
Malcolm Jenkins I love the way Suh plays... The stomp was a lil much but everything else is what u are supposed to be like. I look up to him
Twitter
Are you f'ing kidding me? I just lost a bit of respect for Malcolm Jenkins.

I'm sad and disappointed.:(

Halo 11-25-2011 12:45 PM

Yeah, I could write a book called:

"What not to say on Twitter and facebook: The Guide for Professional Athletes"

Seriously, what an idiot.

Danno 11-25-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 351604)
Yeah, I could write a book called:

"What not to say on Twitter and facebook: The Guide for Professional Athletes"

Seriously, what an idiot.

Yep, I could not write a worse response to that incident if I tried. If he were a Falcon we'd have 10 threads about it and 1,000 negative responses to it.

I couldn't be more disappointed in Malcolm. There's a huge difference in what he did versus someone who's defending a teammate and goes overboard like Kyle Turley did.

Gimme a Kyle Turley over a Malcolm Jenkins any day of the week, every week of the year.

breesfan27 11-25-2011 01:47 PM

I don't agree with what Malcolm said. Suh has major anger issues and he needs to get them under control before he gets himself kicked out of the league.

Just my two cents.

strato 11-25-2011 01:51 PM

Dumb just dumb....dude needs to stay of twitter...

saintfan 11-25-2011 02:04 PM

We had a guy kick a dude in the nuts and we loved it. People even post that video here from time to time.

Danno 11-25-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 351617)
We had a guy kick a dude in the nuts and we loved it. People even post that video here from time to time.

It was a punch actually. And many didn't like it, and I don't remember anyone claiming they looked up to it.

Fanboy emotions aside, it was low-class thuggery.

Cory9289 11-25-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 351617)
We had a guy kick a dude in the nuts and we loved it. People even post that video here from time to time.

Hey now, when we do it, it's self-defense!

neugey 11-25-2011 03:26 PM

If Jenkins should be looking up to anyone from that game, it should be Charles Woodson and that incredible interception! Not tantrum-boy Suh.

UK_WhoDat 11-25-2011 04:10 PM

Suh?

More D'oh‽

NWSaintsFan 11-25-2011 05:14 PM

I'm thinking Jenkins meant he is looking up to Suh for his intensity.

He never said he looks up to him for THAT play. I don't know if anyone would say Suh doesn't play with intensity.

Our defense could use some intensity, that's for sure.

Michigan_SF 11-25-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 351627)
If Jenkins should be looking up to anyone from that game, it should be Charles Woodson and that incredible interception! Not tantrum-boy Suh.

Jenkins should look up to a guy who punched Dave Thomas??
I respectfully disagree with you.

saintfan 11-25-2011 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NWSaintsFan (Post 351647)
I'm thinking Jenkins meant he is looking up to Suh for his intensity.

He never said he looks up to him for THAT play. I don't know if anyone would say Suh doesn't play with intensity.

Our defense could use some intensity, that's for sure.

I agree. I'm sure he'll be asked a thousand times to explain what he said and why. :roll:

skymike 11-25-2011 06:10 PM

Malcolm. SHHHHHHHH. Lets focus on stopping Eli Monday night. Sleep, eat, and exercise well. Dont stay out late, and remember, nothing good happens at 2:00 in the morning.

peace.

CantonLegend 11-25-2011 06:16 PM

He loves suh's intensity and the way he plays. He didn't like the stomp but that doesn't define who suh is as a football player

It blows my mind that a few missed plays, penalties, etc etc can change the entire perception of a person

Suh has made a few mistakes but most of the crap he gets in trouble for is actually completely legal. Suh is one of the best defenders in the league and u guys are hatin on him because of one split second decision.

Not only that but Ur trying to rip on a saints player because he supports suh publically?

skymike 11-25-2011 06:26 PM

I gotta disagree with you here Canton.
Stomping someone and slamming their head to the turf are not "mistakes."

Suh is a punk, he's a liar, and he's a dumbass.

He's supposed to be a leader, and what they got for their money paid to him is someone who went OJ on a guy whom, Im supposing, "disrespected" him, by doing his job, and applying a form pancake.

Thuggery aside, Suh decided his personal ego was more important that his team.

Everybody says dumb stuff, and I love Malcolm, but I wish he would lay low on this topic for now, and not produce any bulletin board material for say, a Giants Tight End.

Mardigras9 11-25-2011 06:34 PM

Suh dominates his position, no doubt. He obviously cannot control himself and I hope he is suspended through our game. Keep that animal away from Drew.

LBCutta 11-25-2011 06:46 PM

All I have to say is THANKS SUH! You picked a great time to be even more of a jackass than you already were. Right before they play us and a good chance of a suspension!!

strato 11-25-2011 07:18 PM

I thought this thread was about M.C...**** "A Boy Named Suh...he is the damn enemy coming up and a penejo :beatnik: ...

He is a dirty dude who loses his kewl when the chips are down man...look ESE ... what if Ellis did this ?..huh ...you want to be bad?..do it in the ring man..get in the ring vato..

BringTheWood 11-25-2011 07:24 PM

That wasn't a smart tweet for Jenkins. I don't think he meant that he likes the illegal stuff Suh does, but more that he likes his intensity and that he takes the game personally. If you ever care to be great, you have to take the game personally. I wish football would be more like hockey. People duke it out over there and then **** is all good. Spend 5 minutes in the penalty box and men quash their issues. Some of the PC BS is ruining football. Alas, I completely see why it was a bad move, I don't agree with Suh's actions yesterday, and it was generally a stupid comment on Jenkins part. I'm not gonna fret over it though. Just hopes he pops some Giants Monday.

homerj07 11-25-2011 07:26 PM

There should be a clause in their contracts - NO TWITTER DURING THE SEASON.

1000$ fine for breaking the rule

Michigan_SF 11-25-2011 08:12 PM

Carl Nicks said he wants Suh to play. Maybe there's some kind of strategy here??

Michigan_SF 11-25-2011 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 351685)
There should be a clause in their contracts - NO TWITTER DURING THE SEASON.

1000$ fine for breaking the rule

Lol at $1K for NFL guys.

Memnoch_TP 11-25-2011 08:48 PM

Low class thuggery is why I love football.

SapperSaint 11-25-2011 09:18 PM

While I don't like what Suh did; here is what I think his mind set is.

Ever since the day Barry Sanders walked out of Detroit; the Lions have been the whipping boys of the NFL. Even worst than the Saints were in the 70's. Suh, (I feel), is trying to change the view that the rest of the NFL and the fans, look at the Lions.

Suh gives the Lions the "HEY! Don't think you are gonna come in here and push us around! This ain't the "Same Ole Sorry A$$" Detriot Lions. We will punch you in the throat and then kick you in the "Coin Purse" and then slap ya mama!

I think Suh has taken on that roll of changing the image of the Lions. Is it the right way to show who your team is now???? No. But it is working to some degree.

Suh needs to understand that while his tough guy image shows a "No B.S." attitude of the Lions.... it also shows thugary.

strato 11-25-2011 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 351711)
While I don't like what Suh did; here is what I think his mind set is.

Ever since the day Barry Sanders walked out of Detroit; the Lions have been the whipping boys of the NFL. Even worst than the Saints were in the 70's. Suh, (I feel), is trying to change the view that the rest of the NFL and the fans, look at the Lions.

Suh gives the Lions the "HEY! Don't think you are gonna come in here and push us around! This ain't the "Same Ole Sorry A$$" Detriot Lions. We will punch you in the throat and then kick you in the "Coin Purse" and then slap ya mama!

I think Suh has taken on that roll of changing the image of the Lions. Is it the right way to show who your team is now???? No. But it is working to some degree.

Suh needs to understand that while his tough guy image shows a "No B.S." attitude of the Lions.... it also shows thugary.


Not a boy named Suh from Nebraska?...lol

subguy 11-25-2011 11:39 PM

The problem here is the fact that Suh can be a dominate player without being dirty. I did not watch many of his college games but I don't remember him being a dirty player in college. Jim Schwartz has been annoying and kind of an arrogant d*** and I think his team follows his lead.

jeanpierre 11-26-2011 07:03 AM

I am vehemently opposed to censorship of any type, excluding spell checkers...

But if I owned an NFL team, there would be contractual clauses regarding twitter...

Jenkins starting time and his play, though with room for improvement, was starting to make me feel a little better about not drafting Clay Matthews...

Now, not so much; really wish we had talk-less/play-loud warriors like Clay Matthews on the Saints Defense...

Danno 11-26-2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 351711)
While I don't like what Suh did; here is what I think his mind set is.

Ever since the day Barry Sanders walked out of Detroit; the Lions have been the whipping boys of the NFL. Even worst than the Saints were in the 70's. Suh, (I feel), is trying to change the view that the rest of the NFL and the fans, look at the Lions.

Suh gives the Lions the "HEY! Don't think you are gonna come in here and push us around! This ain't the "Same Ole Sorry A$$" Detriot Lions. We will punch you in the throat and then kick you in the "Coin Purse" and then slap ya mama!

I think Suh has taken on that roll of changing the image of the Lions. Is it the right way to show who your team is now???? No. But it is working to some degree.

Suh needs to understand that while his tough guy image shows a "No B.S." attitude of the Lions.... it also shows thugary.

I agree that is exactly whats going on. Kick a guy enough he'll eventually fight back.

While he's still a moron, I understand.

strato 11-26-2011 09:21 AM

Well hopefully he will be kickin it with his thug buddies on the sofa for 5 games...lol

OldMaid 11-26-2011 09:41 AM

I am all for intensity in plays. I understand not wanting to be the whipping post for other teams and referees when you are a team like DL now or old Saints used to be. Everyone wants their team to get that league respect.

Playing with intensity. Legal hard tackles, all ok.

Pulling facemasks a few times and shaking opponents heads at the same time is not legal, sportsmanlike conduct, or playing with intensity.
Pounding an opposing team members' head into the turf a few times and then giving him an old chest stomp is not playing with intensity, heart, and legal.
He all of this and he really should have been out at the 1st, 2nd, facemask pulling head shaking. I think he had three of those.

What this is wanting to do is send as many of an opposing team's members home with concussions and in wheelchairs as possible.
Shu is a short fuse waiting to seriously injury an opponent any day now.

Sort of ironic, that DL was the team where Mike Utley played and you know the rest.

Suh has problems. He needs to sit out some games, get some mind therapy, but of course, DL coaching staff won't do that. Suh met with NFL at beginning of season for a little meeting, but as you can see , that did not help.

I do not want this guy playing against my Saints:bng:

papz 11-26-2011 09:48 AM

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SaintsBro 11-26-2011 10:37 AM

I just hope this entire incident puts a muzzle on Suh's play, so that he is coached down by his own coaches into being ineffective -- "tone it down, son" "don't go off like that," "whatever you do, don't get a flag" etc. And I hope he gets put under the microscope by the refs so any little ticky-tacky incidental infraction or aggression on his part gets called, when we play the Lions in two weeks. Or I hope he gets suspended and thus impacts his team's entire season.

I happen to think that one incident truly cost them the game -- I know they were already losing anyway, but not that badly, and that was the critical moment where the Lions had a chance to stop the Packers and get back into it -- after that TD when Suh went out, the Lions were toast, it became a blowout, so that's ALL on Suh as far as I'm concerned. I think we just saw the first crack in the Lions locker room -- they showed youth and inexperience in the spotlight, now we know that they do not handle adversity very well, so let's use that against them in our Sunday night game.

And Jenkins needs to step away from the phone. I am really surprised and disturbed by that remark, although in context it may have just been that he was having a knee-jerk reaction of players automatically siding with each other against the refs who do the ejections, and against the league who place the fines. Still dumb to say it like that, though.

TheDeuce 11-26-2011 12:27 PM

Ughhhhh... I bet he won't feel the same way when Suh cheap shots Brees...

AlaskaSaints 11-26-2011 12:58 PM

Anyone remember when Roman Harper went out of his way to flatten Steve Smith of the Panthers, causing a bench-clearing brawl?

We defended that.

We gotta be careful how we point at Suh, although he was CRIMINAL in this instance.

A lying criminal.

Alaska

saintfan 11-26-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 351814)
Anyone remember when Roman Harper went out of his way to flatten Steve Smith of the Panthers, causing a bench-clearing brawl?

We defended that.

We gotta be careful how we point at Suh, although he was CRIMINAL in this instance.

A lying criminal.

Alaska

You're right, and I don't want to be labeled as someone defending what he did after that play.

Still, sometimes you gotta slobber knock somebody (yes, within the rules...all legal like) but as I've said and as we all know, there's crap to goes on 'in the trenches' and in piles after a fumble that would get half the league suspended if, somehow, the NFL could catch them all.

I am reminded of two expressions:
"It's only illegal if you get caught"
"If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'"

It's easy to take the high road in situations like this one, but people throwing Jenkins under the bus for his comments are doing so without context.

If he said, "Yeah, hell yeah. I admire someone who plays dirty", then yeah, but that's not precisely what he said, and in fact may not be anywhere near what he said.

But the vigilantes are already out in full force. For Malcom's sake I hope he learns a valuable lesson. That lesson is beware the court of public opinion, because they'll crucify you without a trial.

Danno 11-26-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 351817)
I am reminded of two expressions:
"It's only illegal if you get caught"
"If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'"

I have issues with both those expressions...

"It's only illegal if you get caught" - No its still illegal even if you don't get caught.


"If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin' - No, you can try without cheating

saintfan 11-26-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 351819)
I have issues with both those expressions...

"It's only illegal if you get caught" - No its still illegal even if you don't get caught.


"If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin' - No, you can try without cheating

You can have issues with them. You have heard them both though, because they are used time and again. It's not a discussion on right on wrong, at least not on my part.

Fact is, there is no context in what Jenkins said on the receiving end of his twitter comment, and yet everybody wants to hold him accountable for something. For what, exactly?

I think he said he wan't talking about the dirty play. He said, "I love the way Suh plays... The stomp was a lil much but everything else is what u are supposed to be like."

So what part of that is he being strung up for? Frankly I like the way Suh plays, and yes I agree the stomp was a little much, but I like his intensity. So I agree 100% with Jenkins. And further I think BOTH our o and d lines would be wise to play with a similar intensity.

Now that's just my .05. The mob will have their say.

Danno 11-26-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 351824)
I think he said he wan't talking about the dirty play. He said, "I love the way Suh plays... The stomp was a lil much but everything else is what u are supposed to be like."

So what part of that is he being strung up for? Frankly I like the way Suh plays, and yes I agree the stomp was a little much, but I like his intensity. So I agree 100% with Jenkins. And further I think BOTH our o and d lines would be wise to play with a similar intensity.

Now that's just my .05. The mob will have their say.

Well to say the stomp was "a little much" irks me. It was a LOT much.

And Suh's had the dirty player rep for two years now, and Jenkins states he likes the way he plays. To me, and perhaps I'm reading too much into it, that means Malcolm is OK with his overall style of play.

I read that as Malcolm admires players who play dirty.

AllSaints 11-26-2011 02:11 PM

Why everyone hatin on Suh... I like how he plays too big deal Jenkins said he looks up to how he plays wow its such a big deal... psshhhhhhhhh


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