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exiled 11-29-2011 05:17 PM

fake field goal
 
I liked this call though 25 yards was a lot to ask


and good thing Kasay didn't actaully have to block anybody.

VIDEO: Saints Fake Field Goal Falls Short | Times of Europe

AlaskaSaints 11-29-2011 05:20 PM

Graham should have OWNED that last 2 yards. He's 6'6" for Gods sake. Blow it up!!! He pizzes me off sometimes because he is so frightened of a hard hit.

Go ahead, disagree with me. I'll pull up ten instances of his collapsing at first contact.

Alaska

Danno 11-29-2011 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 352730)
Graham should have OWNED that last 2 yards. He's 6'6" for Gods sake. Blow it up!!! He pizzes me off sometimes because he is so frightened of a hard hit.

Go ahead, disagree with me. I'll pull up ten instances of his collapsing at first contact.

Alaska

I disagree with you.

AsylumGuido 11-29-2011 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 352732)
I disagree with you.

Me too.

Beastmode 11-29-2011 05:33 PM

I didn't like the call, too far. Now, if he leaves Brees and Co. on the field then ok.

AsylumGuido 11-29-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 352732)
I disagree with you.

Although, Danno, we probably have to take into consideration that Alaska needs to stay drunk just to stay warm.

;)

jlouhill 11-29-2011 05:39 PM

I liked the call. It would have worked to perfection but the Giants defender jumped on it right away and cost us the first down. It was a good play by their defender sniffing out the fake.

strato 11-29-2011 06:44 PM

JPP isn't your average defender...

Danno 11-29-2011 06:50 PM

I hated the play and rolled my eyes in disgust before Graham was stopped. I thought jumping out to a 3 point lead was the correct thing to do.

We're too good to play trick 'em. Take the points and then score again, and again, and again.

Turns out we didn't need the points anyway but I don't like trick plays. Trick plays are what weak overmatched teams do.

foreverfan 11-29-2011 06:56 PM

We needed to try an onside kick after Ingram's touchdown run late in the 4th.

papz 11-29-2011 06:57 PM

Didn't mind a fake... but I would have liked to put points on the board first.

saintfan 11-29-2011 07:05 PM

I liked the call from that spot early in the game.

BUT

If we'd have kicked the FG, it would have been a 50 burger instead of a 40 burger...

:-(

strato 11-29-2011 07:30 PM

I liked the call...

homerj07 11-29-2011 07:59 PM

Mwah Ha Ha!!

foreverfan 11-29-2011 08:01 PM

We missed the triple brother flea flicker reverse.

saintsfan1976 11-29-2011 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 352774)
I hated the play and rolled my eyes in disgust before Graham was stopped. I thought jumping out to a 3 point lead was the correct thing to do.

We're too good to play trick 'em. Take the points and then score again, and again, and again.

Turns out we didn't need the points anyway but I don't like trick plays. Trick plays are what weak overmatched teams do.

Or what confident teams do.

I liked the call. Giants played it perfectly, credit them. But Sean Payton knows in what situation he NEEDS to put up points. They were going to torch the giants secondary all night anyway.

Crusader 11-29-2011 11:18 PM

Loved the call even thou we didn't score. I like the agressiveness.

jeanpierre 11-29-2011 11:50 PM

It was the right call - even if it didn't convert to a first down or score.

First, it reminds your team that football is fun.

Second, the play call gets the other team thinking instead of reacting; a split second in the NFL is a HUGE difference.

Third, though FG blocks are rare in the NFL - it makes the opposition stay "home" in further FG attempts...

It was early in the game and there would be plenty of more opportunities to win the game...

I thought Graham made a hell of an adjustment to get as much as he did; and judging from the body language and reaction of Daniel; it seemed the throw made have been "bad."

Cory9289 11-30-2011 12:07 AM

That's what makes us the Saints, we take risks. Sometimes it pays off big, sometimes it doesn't. I'd rather watch the Saints do that any day than some boring conservative team.

UK_WhoDat 11-30-2011 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 352775)
We needed to try an onside kick after Ingram's touchdown run late in the 4th.

True dat

Especially since Saints-haters whinging babies were accusing the Saints of running up the score.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 352894)
.........

Second, the play call gets the other team thinking instead of reacting; a split second in the NFL is a HUGE difference.

Third, though FG blocks are rare in the NFL - it makes the opposition stay "home" in further FG attempts...

And this.

ANd it got the Beast into game mode. I am sure some G-men gave it to Graham then so he paid them interest.

neugey 11-30-2011 06:47 AM

The play was a big suprise because you usually don't call those with a lot of yardage to go. Hence the greater element of suprise. It almost worked but NYG did a great job reacting to what was happening.

Danno 11-30-2011 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 352894)
It was the right call - even if it didn't convert to a first down or score.

First, it reminds your team that football is fun.

Second, the play call gets the other team thinking instead of reacting; a split second in the NFL is a HUGE difference.

Third, though FG blocks are rare in the NFL - it makes the opposition stay "home" in further FG attempts...

It was early in the game and there would be plenty of more opportunities to win the game...

I thought Graham made a hell of an adjustment to get as much as he did; and judging from the body language and reaction of Daniel; it seemed the throw made have been "bad."

OK, I can buy this.

Euphoria 11-30-2011 08:22 AM

I am on the fence with the call.

I mean I like it think it was probably the right time of the game for it but I don't think it was the right choice on 4th and long. Call the fake but there has to be a different play call for it. Worse case it think I rather the ball in Drew's hands and offense on the field instead of the kick formation out there.

skymike 11-30-2011 08:43 AM

I actually missed kickoff, and was on the road, listening on radio.
You know, radio gives you a better feel for the crowd, than tv, I
think. There's something "canned" sounding about the crowd on
tv. But with radio, I dont know... it just sounds "right there," and more real. anyway, enought of that tangent.

My point is, the crowd, on radio, was audibly delighted with the call.
For those of you who were there, it sounds like the crowd loved the call,
and was just as happy, as if they had kicked he FG. I mean, it did
put the Giants on their own 9.

RaginCajun83 11-30-2011 08:56 AM

I loved the call, it reminded the league that Sean has the biggest set of any coach .... besides it makes other defensive coaches something else they have to worry about when watching film on the Saints

jcp026 11-30-2011 09:16 AM

It was just too far. I hope that pretty pass puts some your worries about my boy Chase Daniel to rest.

SaintsBro 11-30-2011 09:37 AM

Compared to the Giants' own miserable attempt at a fake punt, the play was brave, brilliant, awesome and fabulous, even if not entirely successful. Shows you the difference between the two teams, right there. It also pinned them pretty deep, which I think was part of the equation if it didn't work out-- they knew Chase would at least get the pass to Graham, it was a fairly easy toss, and even if Graham didn't get the first, it would still pin them back in very bad field position. I absolutely loved the call.

fhotard 11-30-2011 12:40 PM

Saints only gave up 3 points to go for the fake, and it pinned the Giants deep. I liked the call. I would have liked it even more if they had converted or scored on the play.

Mardigras9 11-30-2011 12:45 PM

Short term...wanted the points early in the game.
Long term...showed the rest of the league you never know what we'll do.
Overall...Glad it wasn't a factor.

Rugby Saint II 11-30-2011 12:59 PM

I was the only one in the room who was ok with it . We did pin them deep.

lynwood 11-30-2011 01:38 PM

I liked it!

Cruize 11-30-2011 03:57 PM

I liked the call. I disagreed with the route. You have to go beyond the sticks. Also, it probably makes it almost impossible for the Saints to run another fake this year.

AsylumGuido 11-30-2011 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 353036)
I liked the call. I disagreed with the route. You have to go beyond the sticks. Also, it probably makes it almost impossible for the Saints to run another fake this year.


That's what they may want the opponents to think.

;)


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