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arsaint 12-05-2011 03:47 PM

Anyone else want to see more PT
 
I hate to complain about a great offense, but does anyone else wish we would give Pierre Thomas a few more touches?

I'm not a cheerleader for him, but it sure seems like he makes the most of every touch and I'd like to occassionaly see him on the 3rd & shorts and more in general...

dizzle88 12-05-2011 03:52 PM

Yeah definitely agree, our offense is great as it is but PT needs more carries, he always gets yardage and can do it all! I think sean will try to work him in there more, he knows how effective he is

halloween 65 12-05-2011 04:37 PM

I would like him to get 12-18 carries a game, he deserves them. And also whats up with Ivory? Has he fell out of grace with Payton? I'm still scratching my head with that!!!!!

|Mitch| 12-05-2011 05:05 PM

I like the way the backs are getting the carries now, gotta keep P.T. healthy for the post season.

Ingram being the younger of the two can take the punishment, plus getting him in game experience.

I see P.T. being the go-to back in tough situations when the games really matter...

Euphoria 12-05-2011 05:17 PM

its almost like they are trying to force Ingram on us...

I mean I give them that he needs reps and time to develop being a rookie and all.

PT thought is the better RB.

WhoDat!656 12-05-2011 06:55 PM

Maybe Payton is planning on trading Ingram for some defensive help next year and is building up Ingram's resume' for maximum value

foreverfan 12-05-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 354309)
Maybe Payton is planning on trading Ingram for some defensive help next year and is building up Ingram's resume' for maximum value

Fat chance.... but... PT is being saved for the Playoffs. ;)

SaintPauly 12-05-2011 09:14 PM

Ingram gets stronger, further into the game, and the more touches the better. You don't trade a back like Ingram. No way. Would go down as one of the biggest mistakes in Saints history. This kid is going to be amazing.

jnormand 12-06-2011 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 354344)
Ingram gets stronger, further into the game, and the more touches the better. You don't trade a back like Ingram. No way. Would go down as one of the biggest mistakes in Saints history. This kid is going to be amazing.

I agree with SP here. Ingram is going to be a stud. I think he's starting to turn the corner right now. I like the kid and believe he's gonna be great for us.

subguy 12-06-2011 03:26 AM

I was kinda thinking the same thing about PT. He ran so well against the Giants and then got so few carries against the Lions. I am really happy to see Ingram breaking a couple of long runs recently. The coolest thing is the fact that you dont hear any of our rb's complain about their touches. It takes a special group to not let egos interefere with the team effort.

jcp026 12-06-2011 05:13 AM

Seeing him more just in general would be good.

homerj07 12-06-2011 07:20 AM

It has got to be hard to have 3 (4) good running backs & figuring out what to do with them.

BUT we should NOT have a problem like we did last year. We will have some healthy RBs as the playoffs start & that is VERY VERY important!!

CantonLegend 12-06-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 354287)
its almost like they are trying to force Ingram on us...

I mean I give them that he needs reps and time to develop being a rookie and all.

PT thought is the better RB.

id actually rather see less PT. i think ingram is already the better of the 2 and is only getting better with more touches

i dont think we are being force fed doses of ingram.....i think we are just starting to utilize him a little more because everyone is realizing how good he actually is

papz 12-06-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 354404)
I think he's starting to turn the corner right now.

I think that's why he was given the extra touches also. I definitely would like to see PT fair touches every game... but a W is a W. PT is use to how he's used and he understands his role. PT will always be one of those guys(for me at least) where you wonder how good could he have been if given 20+ touches a game. He's just so productive when he touches the ball.

Quote:

i think we are just starting to utilize him a little more because everyone is realizing how good he can be
Fixed that for you.

darstep 12-06-2011 10:04 AM

PT has better field vision and already knows how to slip-shed tacklers.
Ingram is still getting hit square and stood up, pushed backwards at the end of runs.
He's still learning and that's good, but PT, at the moment, is the better back.

SaintsBro 12-06-2011 10:16 AM

I have been thinking that Payton might be kind of squirreling Thomas away in his vest pocket, in the hopes that other teams will kinda forget about him or overlook him later in the season...teams will get so focused on stopping Igram, Graham and Sproles, that Thomas can kind of slip in there and make things happen when it NEEDS to get done...like the game-winning touchdown drive in the Panthers game: I'm convinced that was a setup -- that Payton called the plays so that the Carolina defense were stressing out about stopping Sproles, Ingram and the wide receivers...all game long Thomas was mostly just being used as a plain vanilla handoff type runner... and then BOOM, short right pass to Thomas for the TD, it seems to have caught them off guard.

SAINTstunna 12-06-2011 11:02 AM

I'd hate to say it but I think PT is going to be on the trade block pretty soon. He's a proven stud, he's been a lil' banged up but gives his all every touch. I think the SAINTS will go with Sproles, Ingram, and Ivory as our backup. I wish you the best of luck PT.

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-06-2011 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SAINTstunna (Post 354495)
I'd hate to say it but I think PT is going to be on the trade block pretty soon. He's a proven stud, he's been a lil' banged up but gives his all every touch. I think the SAINTS will go with Sproles, Ingram, and Ivory as our backup. I wish you the best of luck PT.

He'd be a big hit on the salary cap:

Breaking down Pierre Thomas' contract - NFC South Blog - ESPN

SFIAH

Rugby Saint II 12-06-2011 12:42 PM

When and if anybody goes it will be Ivory.

AlaskaSaints 12-06-2011 02:42 PM

Not much trade value in an "injury-prone" back.

I say play them all for maximum inflicted trauma!!

Alaska in MS

halloween 65 12-06-2011 03:01 PM

Bell will probably be our next PT, there was anther thread that was posted about our rb's and the only one I could figure to get anything for was PT, maybe a 2nd. It could be a mistake Loomis makes but in my opinion it would be that Payton just don't like him. I hope this isn't the case but it is hard to figure Payton. To me PT is by far our best back but if he goes I hope New England gets him, he will do good there.

SaintPauly 12-10-2011 07:04 PM

Not to bring up bad memories, but wasn't it PT that was holding out for a bigger contract before the lock out? That could be why Ingram was brought in to begin with. Payton doesn't like that kind of behavior, and neither do i... He's a good player, but I think he wants more than we are willing to give him...


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