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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; How good does the Saints defense need to be? I've seen some improvement in the Saints run defense as of late. If we learn how to catch an inteception, the Saints could become scary. Still, we don't have many/any difference ...

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Old 12-05-2011, 07:42 PM   #1
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Is the Saints defense getting better?

How good does the Saints defense need to be?

I've seen some improvement in the Saints run defense as of late. If we learn how to catch an inteception, the Saints could become scary. Still, we don't have many/any difference makers on defense.

But I do see hope based on what I saw in the 1st half of the Sunday night game. Was I imagining something or did you see it too. Our defense played pretty good in the 1st half.

Look, I know the Saints defense is still swiss cheese, but... Vilma is back, Jenkins is looking better, Greer is a stud, Harper is looking better than most on this board are willing to give the dude credit. The DT are plugging running holes. Shanle is playing well. Robinson seems to be the main question as of late.

But the question remains... how good do they have to be anyway since no team has it all. It looks like the trend in the NFL right now appears to be with the great offenses like Green Bay, New England and to a lesser extent Alanta, Dallas, Detroit and San Fransico. Considering our offense can play with anybody, is our defense any better than these teams?

Right now I believe GW looks to force a quick 3 and out or the Saints allow the other team to drive down and kick a field goal (maybe a TD). With one of the best offenses in league history, is this all you have to do assuming Brees doesn't have a bad day?

Our improved 4 headed running game is a huge improvement over other years and the guys don't fumble. The Saints are extremely healthy and we are only thin at TE.

So at this point... how do the Saints improve defensively?

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Old 12-05-2011, 07:58 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by foreverfan View Post
How good does the Saints defense need to be?

So at this point... how do the Saints improve defensively?
the double cover schemes worked well, but I was amazed Stafford was not finding even MORE wide open receivers. Sending 6,7,8 guys just does not work for us. I can't tell you how many times I've seen Harper run into a LB or lineman, taking himslef or two defenders out of the play

In the first half we were vanilla and effective. In the second GW started the pick-a-blitz-out-of-a-hat routine and we got lit up.

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Old 12-05-2011, 09:36 PM   #3
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Well, I was hoping to see Johnny Patrick instead of Patrick Robinson in these situationfaces. Let's face it Robinson getting smoked like fred thomas out there. The D is getting better. I still contest that if we make it to that NFC championship game we will outlast Green Bay. There D gives up just as much as ours does. Jenkins balled yesterday and that is a hell of a sign that good things are coming. Good test coming up outdoors in Tennesse I think that will be the gage as to if we can go outdoors and put it on a team like we do in the dome. A good chance for us to get our hands on Hassleback as well.
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:42 PM   #4
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Improved? Yes. I saw improvements. Not sure if things are beginning to click or what but QB's are clearly rattled.

We don't have to be dominant on D with the offense we have. Just ask Green Bay.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:18 PM   #5
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I dont think a defense that gave up 400 yds passing is getting better. pass coverage was terrible.

Good news is we have one of the best offenses of all time and they can carry us.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:35 PM   #6
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Our D wont be enough in the playoffs, maybe against San Fran, but we dont go into GB and beat them...no way, they will shred us like they did last time...wheeew, got my negativeness out of me just now...I feel better.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:41 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by FireVenturi View Post
I dont think a defense that gave up 400 yds passing is getting better. pass coverage was terrible.

Good news is we have one of the best offenses of all time and they can carry us.
Yea but a lot of those yards are junk yards and are meaningless in the scope of the game.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:53 PM   #8
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Junk yards bother me.... Play till the clock hits 0:00
If we had beaten St Louis then maybe junk yards wouldn't bother me, if we had beat Seattle.... same
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:11 PM   #9
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If they don't get better and better fast will be in a shoot out in every game the SAINTS play.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:43 AM   #10
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Our D wont be enough in the playoffs, maybe against San Fran, but we dont go into GB and beat them...no way, they will shred us like they did last time...wheeew, got my negativeness out of me just now...I feel better.
Well that would be strange because everyone is stopping their offense...

They shred everyone. If Colston doesn't fumble that ball we might have beat them the first time.
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