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Halo 12-11-2011 11:22 PM

I don't think this face mask was intentional. He threw his arm out to stop the receiver. The face mask was barely a penalty at that. His arm/hand grazed the mask and caught it.

Not trying to make excuses for him. He has been more aggressive this season, but today was not all on him.

Turbo Saint 12-11-2011 11:23 PM

definitely NOT intentional...no one is dirty on our team...c'mon now.

papz 12-11-2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 355938)
I don't think this face mask was intentional. He threw his arm out to stop the receiver. The face mask was barely a penalty at that. His arm/hand grazed the mask and caught it.

Not trying to make excuses for him. He has been more aggressive this season, but today was not all on him.

It wasn't intentional by any means. When they slowed it down, he grabbed his should pad, slipped to the helmet, and then the mask. Had he not held on, it would have been a touchdown. It was a necessary play and yet accidental play. It isn't the first time nor last that it happens on the field.

There is nothing about Harper that radiates thug. He's well spoken and doesn't prance around the field like he owns the place. A few of his "hits" were message senders... like "don't go after our players knees when blocking" . He's a leader on this team and protects his players. I wish we had more Roman Harpers on this team.

hitta 12-11-2011 11:43 PM

lol dirty or not, it stopped them from getting into the endzone on the play. 15 yard penalty was a good trade off.

iceshack149 12-12-2011 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 355914)
I've posted my dislike for Harper as a Defensive Back on this site; have had my disagreements with some about his game...

But the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties he's drawn or becoming more regular than defensive stops for this squad...

Frankly, I like a "tough" defense - but the kind that Rickey Jackson and Vaughan Johnson led, not this thuggish brand that Harper has shown as of late...

Maybe if/when Greg Williams leaves after this season, he can take "Toast" with him...

I don't want either of those guys to leave! Harper is arguably the Saints best defender and he and Williams helped the Saints win their first Superbowl.

Crusader 12-12-2011 02:14 AM

Harper is playing on the line the whole time. Sometimes the line gets crossed but thats why I like him.

Belair57 12-12-2011 02:48 AM

sorry, but I for one would be ok with a penalty a game of something that was totally uncalled for...... as long as it intimitated the other team...I like dirty, tough football, the kind that is played in gravel parking lots with no refs..if you know what im saying

Michigan_SF 12-12-2011 05:43 AM

Should be interesting to watch Harper vs Carolina later on.

95shakinpf 12-12-2011 05:58 AM

I think Harper was trying to stop the TD. He did. The facemask grab didnt look intentional but it happened and he was penalized for it. Sorry if you disagree but Harper helped win the game!
WHO DAT!!
And unless we acquire Wade Phillips or someone equal to him as Defensive Coordinator I wish for Greg Williams to stay right where he is.
IMHO

spkb25 12-12-2011 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 355914)
I've posted my dislike for Harper as a Defensive Back on this site; have had my disagreements with some about his game...

But the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties he's drawn or becoming more regular than defensive stops for this squad...

Frankly, I like a "tough" defense - but the kind that Rickey Jackson and Vaughan Johnson led, not this thuggish brand that Harper has shown as of late...

Maybe if/when Greg Williams leaves after this season, he can take "Toast" with him...

Absolutely not. He saved a TD on that play, and if you go back and watch the replay he actually grabs the guys should pad area first, but as the player continues his hand hits the face mask.


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