Harper Becoming a Thug?

spkb25 · 12-12-2011, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

I don't think this face mask was intentional. He threw his arm out to stop the receiver. The face mask was barely a penalty at that. His arm/hand grazed the mask and caught it.

Not trying to make excuses for him. He has been more aggressive this season, but today was not all on him.

Agreed, it looked really bad in normal speed, but on second look in slow mo it wasn't that bad at all

dizzle88 · 12-12-2011, 07:15 AM

Harper didnt mean to get the facemask, but he had the balls to make a hit on that play unlike Patrick Robinson, I know he's beatable in some pass situations but he didn't get beat yesterday and he's our best tackler

Budsdrinker · 12-12-2011, 07:19 AM

Look Harper was in full speed and the receivwer stopped to make a cut and when he did Harper got a handful of facemask. It wasn't intentional but it happen. He is not a dirty player.

pinch · 12-12-2011, 07:36 AM

If you want to dislike him for sucking in coverage that's understandable, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove he's a dirty player, much less a thug.

I usually get seriously T-ed off about stupid unsportsmanlike penalties, but if you're going to try to rip a guy's head off like that, you may as well do it after a huge gain where there isn't much impact. Obviously it was an accident, so you can hardly label him a thug for it, but maybe it was a good time to send someone a message.

Danno · 12-12-2011, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by papz

It wasn't intentional by any means. When they slowed it down, he grabbed his should pad, slipped to the helmet, and then the mask. Had he not held on, it would have been a touchdown. It was a necessary play and yet accidental play. It isn't the first time nor last that it happens on the field.

There is nothing about Harper that radiates thug. He's well spoken and doesn't prance around the field like he owns the place. A few of his "hits" were message senders... like "don't go after our players knees when blocking" . He's a leader on this team and protects his players. I wish we had more Roman Harpers on this team.

Well said Papz. I'd give you two likes if it let me.

Harper is playing some great football. I think this may be the 2nd week in a row that he didn't allow a completion, and last week we played a LOT of zone coverage.

All of our players play with a chip on their shoulders. They are a reflection of Gregg Williams.

Agressive? Yes
Dirty? No

Saint_LB · 12-12-2011, 07:52 AM

Was gonna make a joke about him getting old just to mess with Danno a little but thought better of it. There is just nothing funny about a guy getting old!

Danno · 12-12-2011, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Was gonna make a joke about him getting old just to mess with Danno a little but thought better of it. There is just nothing funny about a guy getting old!

Amen young man, amen.

Seer1 · 12-12-2011, 08:04 AM

At least he got the man down which is more than we can say about Patrick. Say what you want about Harper, but remember, he's tackling for two.....

RaginCajun83 · 12-12-2011, 08:06 AM

So first the NFL tries to sissify the defense and now you're all for the defense playing like a bunch of sissies, good grief the Dome Patrol, Ronnie Lott, Jack Tatem, hell any great defense that made this league great would have its **** taken from them with these offense first rules that are ruining the great sport that we love

OldMaid · 12-12-2011, 10:23 AM

Facemask pull I saw by Harper was with Harper and a Titan walking all alone. Wrong. Dirty.
I do not like unsportsmanlike conduct.
When you do a thing like this, it penalizes your team.
This was intentional.

Sometimes a facemask when tackling or a late hit is unintentional. These guys are runnning how fast and cannot stop on a dime.

I love, am all for agressive playing. Hard tackling. That is not dirty, but the NFL. It is not tennis or golf or baseball.

Someone mentioned The Burbon Street Bruisers, The Dome Patrol, smart, agressive, hard tackling, legal players.

12-12-2011, 06:36 AM	#21
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Originally Posted by Halo I don't think this face mask was intentional. He threw his arm out to stop the receiver. The face mask was barely a penalty at that. His arm/hand grazed the mask and caught it. Not trying to make excuses for him. He has been more aggressive this season, but today was not all on him. Agreed, it looked really bad in normal speed, but on second look in slow mo it wasn't that bad at all

12-12-2011, 07:45 AM	#25
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by papz It wasn't intentional by any means. When they slowed it down, he grabbed his should pad, slipped to the helmet, and then the mask. Had he not held on, it would have been a touchdown. It was a necessary play and yet accidental play. It isn't the first time nor last that it happens on the field. There is nothing about Harper that radiates thug. He's well spoken and doesn't prance around the field like he owns the place. A few of his "hits" were message senders... like "don't go after our players knees when blocking" . He's a leader on this team and protects his players. I wish we had more Roman Harpers on this team. Well said Papz. I'd give you two likes if it let me. Harper is playing some great football. I think this may be the 2nd week in a row that he didn't allow a completion, and last week we played a LOT of zone coverage. All of our players play with a chip on their shoulders. They are a reflection of Gregg Williams. Agressive? Yes Dirty? No

12-12-2011, 07:52 AM	#26
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Was gonna make a joke about him getting old just to mess with Danno a little but thought better of it. There is just nothing funny about a guy getting old!
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12-12-2011, 07:55 AM	#27
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by Saint_LB Was gonna make a joke about him getting old just to mess with Danno a little but thought better of it. There is just nothing funny about a guy getting old! Amen young man, amen.

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12-12-2011, 07:15 AM	#22
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Harper didnt mean to get the facemask, but he had the balls to make a hit on that play unlike Patrick Robinson, I know he's beatable in some pass situations but he didn't get beat yesterday and he's our best tackler

12-12-2011, 07:19 AM	#23
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Look Harper was in full speed and the receivwer stopped to make a cut and when he did Harper got a handful of facemask. It wasn't intentional but it happen. He is not a dirty player.

12-12-2011, 07:36 AM	#24
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	If you want to dislike him for sucking in coverage that's understandable, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove he's a dirty player, much less a thug. I usually get seriously T-ed off about stupid unsportsmanlike penalties, but if you're going to try to rip a guy's head off like that, you may as well do it after a huge gain where there isn't much impact. Obviously it was an accident, so you can hardly label him a thug for it, but maybe it was a good time to send someone a message.

12-12-2011, 08:04 AM	#28
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	At least he got the man down which is more than we can say about Patrick. Say what you want about Harper, but remember, he's tackling for two.....

12-12-2011, 08:06 AM	#29
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	So first the NFL tries to sissify the defense and now you're all for the defense playing like a bunch of sissies, good grief the Dome Patrol, Ronnie Lott, Jack Tatem, hell any great defense that made this league great would have its **** taken from them with these offense first rules that are ruining the great sport that we love

12-12-2011, 10:23 AM	#30
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,818 Blog Entries: 3	Facemask pull I saw by Harper was with Harper and a Titan walking all alone. Wrong. Dirty. I do not like unsportsmanlike conduct. When you do a thing like this, it penalizes your team. This was intentional. Sometimes a facemask when tackling or a late hit is unintentional. These guys are runnning how fast and cannot stop on a dime. I love, am all for agressive playing. Hard tackling. That is not dirty, but the NFL. It is not tennis or golf or baseball. Someone mentioned The Burbon Street Bruisers, The Dome Patrol, smart, agressive, hard tackling, legal players.