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mike27 12-12-2011 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by breesfan27 (Post 355929)
I don't think he's a thug. Was the facemask wrong? Yes. Was it justified? Hell yes! The way things were going for them, they would have gotten flagged anyway, might as well make it worth while. Just my opinion though.

I actually think that last hit was incidental--he was just running so desperately, got there just before the runner, and that was all that he could get ahold of--and for the most part I think he plays a clean game.

People complain a lot about Williams running blitzs, but I think a big part of it is wanting to ring the bell of the quarterback once or twice. There is nothing like putting that thought of being hit into the quarterback's head to get him to throw passes more quickly, and make mistakes. It's one of the intangibles one gets from Blitzing, in addition to the occasional sacks, and often leads to fumbles and interceptions, to state the obvious.

Remember how all the pundits whined all year long about the D being so bad--but they got the job done when it counted, and after all the job isn't to keep the other team to 0, but to keep them from scoring more than your team. I mean, it'd be nice, but in the NFL, it is pretty impractical to think you can get zeroes.

homerj07 12-12-2011 02:29 PM

The facemask was unintentional but a good stop., He deserved the penalty but it saved some points.

Yes he has had a few stupid blunders the past few games. BUT If he was truely dirty the league would have busted him for it!!

CantonLegend 12-12-2011 03:21 PM

love being called dirty

all it means is that harper is getting in the other teams heads

hes forced washington to think about him instead of the next play and that gives harper an advantage

wstcstsaint 12-12-2011 03:32 PM

Harper is not "dirty". He is a hard nose player that knows how to lay a hit. I have to listen to games becuase I line in Los Angeles, and even the biased Titan commentators said that it was not a helmet-to-helmet hit.

That said, there have been so many rule changes that 5 years ago none of his hits would have been penalties. Yeah, the face mask was "rough" but it is no different that a PI where they tackle the reciever while the ball is in the air.

I will take #41 any day of the week, because he has fire and heart

BIGEASY504 12-12-2011 05:58 PM

Harper has mentally gotten into some of the players head although I don't think that's in his mind set. Saints had some bad calls against them in the game but in the Williams led defense mind state he encourage the hit. Dirty player no aggressive yes.

FireVenturi 12-12-2011 09:17 PM

He saved a TD with that play. If the situation comes up I hope he does it again. The goal is to win, without getting anyone suspended.

SmashMouth 12-12-2011 10:03 PM

What are y'all talking about? Of course it was an accident! :rolleyes:

QBREES9 12-12-2011 11:04 PM

No Problem with Harper at all.

pherein 12-13-2011 02:28 AM

Me either, no problem with Harper except his pass coverage. Defense is suppose to destroy things, its their job. I would NEVER worry about how hard I hit a QB or any offensive player if I played on defense. IT really would never occur to me to care in the spit second I took a WR head off. Harper grabbed the WR shoulder pad then grabbed the face mask, and Im glad he did. Its better to get a penalty than a TD. It was a smart move by harper.

I don't have a problem with Harrison either, kill the firkin QB if he runs.

Suh - is a dirty player same as hansworth, you don't cheap shot a player after the play over or you have an emotional problem.

jeanpierre 12-16-2011 04:42 PM

Like it or not, here's what the NFL says...

Saints' Harper fined $22,500 for two infractions vs. Titans - NFL - CBSSports.com News, Rumors, Scores, Stats, Fantasy Advice


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