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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; That $22,500 fine was worth it, especially the face mask that saved the TD. It actually gives me more respect for him that he would put the Saints above his pocket book. And I think he would do it again ...

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Old 12-16-2011, 06:22 PM   #51
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That $22,500 fine was worth it, especially the face mask that saved the TD. It actually gives me more respect for him that he would put the Saints above his pocket book. And I think he would do it again if it come to saving a TD.
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Old 12-16-2011, 06:49 PM   #52
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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints View Post
Palamalu gets RESPECT.

Why not Harper?

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Polamalu? Respect from me? Not so much.

Didn't care for some of his cheap shot schiott that started at USC.

Ronnie Lott - hated, I mean I hated, the 49'ers; but of all of 'em, including Young and Rice, I wish we had Lott most of all.

He was as tough as they come and to geaux with Jackston, Johnson, Mills, and Swilling - it would have been the greatest defense ever - even with Toi 'Toast' Cook at cornerback...

I don't like plays that Harper made - I understand what he did, but I don't like it as Karma has a way of coming back on your other guys...

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A couple of years ago when you could still play football, the face-mask that "could have" won us the game, would have been nothing more than routine hard football.

It makes me sick that with how flag happy Goodell has made the referees, we are now stuck with calling players "thugs"

Next we're going to start calling all our DB's "dirty" because they are diving at the knees of the ball-carriers...
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Polamalu? Respect from me? Not so much.

Didn't care for some of his cheap shot schiott that started at USC.

Ronnie Lott - hated, I mean I hated, the 49'ers; but of all of 'em, including Young and Rice, I wish we had Lott most of all.

He was as tough as they come and to geaux with Jackston, Johnson, Mills, and Swilling - it would have been the greatest defense ever - even with Toi 'Toast' Cook at cornerback...

I don't like plays that Harper made - I understand what he did, but I don't like it as Karma has a way of coming back on your other guys...
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Even though alot of guys on here have dogged Harper for years, he & Vilma are the best two defensive players we have. He has fire.....something that much of our defense lacks. He will be a Pro Bowler this year....and for good reason. Oh.....did I mention he is probably the best tackler on the team. He wraps up! So to the haters......get off Harper's ass. He's doing his job.......thoroughly. Oh....and considering that we have absolutely no pass rush whatsoever from our overpaid defensive line.....it's not an easy job.
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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 View Post
Even though alot of guys on here have dogged Harper for years, he & Vilma are the best two defensive players we have. He has fire.....something that much of our defense lacks. He will be a Pro Bowler this year....and for good reason. Oh.....did I mention he is probably the best tackler on the team. He wraps up! So to the haters......get off Harper's ass. He's doing his job.......thoroughly. Oh....and considering that we have absolutely no pass rush whatsoever from our overpaid defensive line.....it's not an easy job.
True, but I'd probably put Greer above Vilma and even with Harper.

Even though he's looked bad at times, I'd put Jenkins over Vilma too.
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Vilma has an excuse this year, coming off injury. That said, he needs to step it up if we're going to make a run at the Lombardi. Greer has looked solid, even stellar at times, this year even though I thought he would be a liability early on. I have to give him his kudos. Jenkins......I disagree. He has not impressed me this year like I thought he would. D-line sucks! Casillas over-pursues, but has a motor. Shanle......horrible. Dunbar has proven helpful.

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 View Post
Vilma has an excuse this year, coming off injury. That said, he needs to step it up if we're going to make a run at the Lombardi. Greer has looked solid, even stellar at times, this year even though I thought he would be a liability early on. I have to give him his kudos. Jenkins......I disagree. He has not impressed me this year like I thought he would. D-line sucks! Casillas over-pursues, but has a motor. Shanle......horrible. Dunbar has proven helpful.

Just my take.
Our d line is actually doing a great job or did you forget we just held cj2k to under 30 yards last week?

Shanle is actually having a good season as well. Can't believe ppl are still knocking him after the season he's having. He's been our best backer this season
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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 View Post
Vilma has an excuse this year, coming off injury. That said, he needs to step it up if we're going to make a run at the Lombardi. Greer has looked solid, even stellar at times, this year even though I thought he would be a liability early on. I have to give him his kudos. Jenkins......I disagree. He has not impressed me this year like I thought he would. D-line sucks! Casillas over-pursues, but has a motor. Shanle......horrible. Dunbar has proven helpful.

Just my take.
No doubt Jenkins has looked lost at times, but he's also made some plays that have stuck out.

I know Vilma's hurt, but I'm wondering if its now the norm instead of the exception. Many said his knee problems would end up shortening his career. I hope we aren't seeing that come true right before our eyes.
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Our d line is actually doing a great job or did you forget we just held cj2k to under 30 yards last week?

Shanle is actually having a good season as well. Can't believe ppl are still knocking him after the season he's having. He's been our best backer this season
Do you guys have TV in Ohio or are you just winging your comments? Our d-line gets NO pressure on the QB, hence we have to manufacture blitzing packages (see Harper's sack total, duh!!). And Shanle sucks.....no matter how you want to look at it. Only Jason David & Fred Thomas got abused more in a Saints uniform!
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