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Old 12-29-2011, 07:23 PM   #11
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Thanks for passing along all those stats. Must have taken some time to put all that together.
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Old 12-30-2011, 04:09 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by SaintsBro View Post
The last really ridiculous freezing bad-weather playoff game there (2007 NFC Championship game, wind chill -24 F) the Packers LOST so it's not like they're invincible when the weather is bad. Their home record playoff stat at Lambeau is just hype, padded by years of impressive wins in the 1950s and 1960s and the Ice Bowl etc. They are 2-3 at home in the playoffs in the recent era.
Hopefully, global warming will help us by a few degrees this year. Assuming we get to Lambeau or need to. Go Giants.

I did notice in the game at Lambeau ( and another game there against another team ) that we were slipping on one end of the field. So were the Packers, but, less than we were. Of course, at -24 it would be permafrost. Which cleats do we wear for permafrost?
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:45 AM   #13
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I would be pretty confident against the clowns at home...
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:14 PM   #14
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Yeah, doesn't seem like GB or NE can get teams off the field. The really telling part is that their defenses don't seem to be designed that way intentinally . They both don't have a "bend don't break " defense. You can tell that by....

The % of teams making 3rd downs on them
3rd Down %
NO - 32.8 (#5)
NE - 44.1 (#29)
GB - 42.9 (#28)

But our red zone defense really really needs to improve.
Red Zone Efficiency
NO - 64.7% (#31)
NE - 53.5% (#18)
GB - 53.1% (#17)

Does any one know what our Red Zone Efficiency has been in the last 5 weeks?

Thanks for the stats Pherein.
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:23 PM   #15
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These three teams interest me in terms of comparison. Most experts argue that GB is the clear favorite to win it all, and that NO is probably the most complete team, but most folks seem to think that, while Brady gives them a chance, their defense really is so bad as to make a championship not much more than a pipe dream. So let's put that to the test and compare the three teams.

OFFENSE
Yds/G
NO - 456.7 (#1)
NE - 424.5 (#2)
GB - 395.5 (#5)

Pass Yds/G
NO - 331.4 (#1)
NE - 316.1 (#2)
GB - 297.0 (#3)

Pass Y/A
NO - 8.2 (#5)
NE - 8.5 (#2)
GB - 9.2 (#1)

QB Rating
NO - 109.0 (#2)
NE - 105.1 (#3)
GB - 120.9 (#1)

Rush Yds/G
NO - 125.4 (#10)
NE - 108.4 (#20)
GB - 98.5 (#27)

Rush Y/A
NO - 4.7 (#6)
NE - 4.0 (#22)
GB - 4.0 (#21)

3rd Down %
NO - 54.8% (#1)
NE - 45.6% (#4)
GB - 48.0% (#2)

Points Per Game
NO - 32.6 (#2)
NE - 30.9 (#3)
GB - 34.3 (#1)

TO/G
NO - 1.1 (#4)
NE - 1.1 (#3)
GB - 0.8 (#2)

Red Zone Efficiency
NO - 57.1 (#8)
NE - 64.2 (#3)
GB - 65.1 (#2)

Time of Possession
NO - 31:51 (#5)
NE - 28.44 (#25)
GB - 30:24 (#12)

oSRS (profootball-reference.com)
NO - 9.7 (#2)
NE - 8.7 (#3)
GB - 11.0 (#1)

DEFENSE
Yds/G
NO - 366.1 (#25)
NE - 412.1 (#32)
GB - 400.7 (#31)

Pass Yds/G
NO - 256.1 (#28)
NE - 294.7 (#32)
GB - 286.3 (#31)

Pass Y/A
NO - 7.1 (#15)
NE - 8.2 (#29)
GB - 7.7 (#26)

QB Rating
NO - 86.4 (#23)
NE - 88.2 (#26)
GB - 78.3 (#8)

Rush Yds/G
NO - 109.9 (#12)
NE - 117.5 (#17)
GB - 114.4 (#16)

Rush Y/A
NO - 4.9 (#30)
NE - 4.6 (#25)
GB - 4.7 (#26)

3rd Down %
NO - 32.8 (#5)
NE - 44.1 (#29)
GB - 42.9 (#28)

TO/G
NO - 0.9 (#32)
NE - 2.0 (#4)
GB - 2.3 (#2)

Red Zone Efficiency
NO - 64.7% (#31)
NE - 53.5% (#18)
GB - 53.1% (#17)

dSRS (profootball-reference.com)
NO - 0.0 (#18)
NE - 0.0 (#18)
GB - 0.8 (#15)

The overall profile of Green Bay and New England couldn't be more similar. Not in every exact category, obviously, but in the vast majority. It seems to me that it's clear that NE is the #3 team of this group, but it's a lot closer than people would like to think.

Interestingly, NO probably has the best overall statistical profile. But they'll have to go on the road to beat Green Bay (assuming both teams advance that far), and NE would at least get GB (or NO, of course) on a neutral field.
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I would love to move this discussion to its own thread.

I have some questions and contributions.

But, NYE is going to slow me down.

Thanks again Pherein for all this data.

Happy New Year,
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:50 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT View Post
Does any one know what our Red Zone Efficiency has been in the last 5 weeks?

Thanks for the stats Pherein.
I know the last 3 games , your welcome , nice of you guys to say.

Red Zone Efficiency
NO - 64.7% (#31)

Last 3 games
NO - 42.86% ( #9)

Incredible progress

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Old 12-31-2011, 05:05 PM   #17
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Hopefully, global warming will help us by a few degrees this year. Assuming we get to Lambeau or need to. Go Giants.

I did notice in the game at Lambeau ( and another game there against another team ) that we were slipping on one end of the field. So were the Packers, but, less than we were. Of course, at -24 it would be permafrost. Which cleats do we wear for permafrost?
You don't need cleats, lol, your feet will stick to the ground anyways at -24.
Yeah, I saw the same slipping during a game.

Found this interesting
Freeze Frames: 10 things you should know about cold-weather football - NFL - ESPN
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Old 12-31-2011, 05:06 PM   #18
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Yea, it's usually "They beat us. I have some ideas how to fix the problem." Then after the second game its like "I'm not sure what else to change, we are sooooo screwed".
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ESPN Magazine Article on Win Probability

Very interesting Stat ESPN is picking up on. Show the Win probability of a team at a given moment in time. Notice panthers are number 4 but their defense is horrible.

Advanced NFL Stats: ESPN Magazine Article on Win Probability



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