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The Dude 12-29-2011 01:51 AM

Are we getting out of hand with this record stuff?
 
Brees broke Marinos record and will go down as the only one to do so in 20 years and I couldn't be happier for him. Does anybody else here think its a bit dangerous to keep any player in the game strictly to break a record this close to the playoffs?
Im not talking about the Atlanta game, thats been accomplished, I am talking about the Carolina game. Am I the only one who thinks it would be stupid to keep Brees and the starters in for the sheer point of ensuring Brees keeps the record if the Rams game gets way out of hand?
The only record I want is a Super Bowl. I don't want to risk losing a key player for the sake of some record. Are our coaches and us fans putting too much into this record stuff for our own good?

Cory9289 12-29-2011 03:22 AM

Eh, that's kinda hard to say. I really doubt Brees will play much if the Niners completely take over the Rams.

Srgt. Hulka 12-29-2011 07:04 AM

I know the coaches have a job to do, and that's to win as many games as you can, and go as far as you can in the playoffs. But to deny a player of a record that may stand for years would be very difficult. As a kid, you are taught to be the BEST you can be, not just in sports, but in life as well. Getting a shot at a record, especially a mojor record, is something that you may have one opportunity in your entire lifetime to achieve. And to pull a player when he's right on the cusp of breaking a record would, in my opinion, a great disservice to that player. Let them play. Let Brees play long enough to keep it out of reach of Brady. It was sad that he was only 15 yards away in 2008 knowing he may never get that close again. Luckily for Drew he has another shot at it. Don't take it away from him again. Let these players be the best they can be.

TheOak 12-29-2011 07:25 AM

You are not the only one.... But there is still a lot of seating open in your area...

Budsdrinker 12-29-2011 09:21 AM

The starters will play as long as there is a shot at the 2 seed

SaintsBro 12-29-2011 09:22 AM

If Payton says in a press conference that he is not going to be keeping an eye on the scoreboard of the 49ers game, then I'd say that is almost a 100% certainty that he WILL be keeping an eye on the 49ers scoreboard at the Panthers game. Keep in mind, #2 seed is still a real possibility at this point, it may not be likely but it has not been taken off the table yet, so you can't just throw it away and say you don't want it. It's nothing to do with the Brees record, it's the #2 seed.

Papa Voodoo 12-29-2011 09:50 AM

Just like 2009....never stop and always stay agressive.

neugey 12-29-2011 09:53 AM

The 49ers play low scoring games and therefore don't have as much margin for error. Call me insane but I think the Rams have a decent shot to spoil it for the Niners or keep it close. So I think we'll be keeping Brees in.

Jamessr 12-29-2011 10:57 AM

I'm not a big fan of resting him period. He's a football player treat him like one. If he isn't hurt why bench him?

Not to mention I'd be kinda pissed if I traveled back home to watch the last game and starters were benched....

Halo 12-29-2011 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 361270)
I'm not a big fan of resting him period. He's a football player treat him like one. If he isn't hurt why bench him?

Not to mention I'd be kinda pissed if I traveled back home to watch the last game and starters were benched....

I think the stars of the show should play some football. I also think it's good to keep them going.

On the other side, if we lost a playoff game and everyone says "Brees looked cold" then the critics would come out asking why Payton rested a team that was on a serious rollll into the playoffs...

:bng:

lynwood 12-29-2011 11:54 AM

As long as their is a chance for the number 2 seed you play and play hard.

saintfan 12-29-2011 12:16 PM

They play unless they're already nursing something. Period.

NOLA54 12-29-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 361251)
The 49ers play low scoring games and therefore don't have as much margin for error. Call me insane but I think the Rams have a decent shot to spoil it for the Niners or keep it close. So I think we'll be keeping Brees in.

I thought for certain that the Seahawks were going to beat the 49ers by a field goal on that last drive. Yes the 49ers do not score a lot of points but I'm struggling to think they could loose to the Rams. Perhaps we will be surprised at the end of the day.

fhotard 12-29-2011 12:54 PM

The Rams beat us. KC beat the packers.
Strange things happen in this league sometimes.
The Rams could beat SF. It's possible.

Hopefully, they'll start Brees this week against the Panthers, but keep an eye on the scoreboard. If SF is kicking the snot out of StL, pull the starters off the field to keep them healthy.
As long as there's a shot at it, playing for the #2 seed is worth it. If it's no longer attainable, sit Brees and as many others as possible.

UK_WhoDat 12-29-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 361251)
The 49ers play low scoring games and therefore don't have as much margin for error. Call me insane but I think the Rams have a decent shot to spoil it for the Niners or keep it close. So I think we'll be keeping Brees in.

I think you are right. Rams get 10 to 13 points and the 49ers get 20 to 27 points. Which all means the Saints will keep on hoping.

OldMaid 12-29-2011 02:42 PM

Are we getting out of hand with this record stuff?

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Brees broke Marinos record and will go down as the only one to do so in 20 years and I couldn't be happier for him. Does anybody else here think its a bit dangerous to keep any player in the game strictly to break a record this close to the playoffs?
Im not talking about the Atlanta game, thats been accomplished, I am talking about the Carolina game. Am I the only one who thinks it would be stupid to keep Brees and the starters in for the sheer point of ensuring Brees keeps the record if the Rams game gets way out of hand?
The only record I want is a Super Bowl. I don't want to risk losing a key player for the sake of some record. Are our coaches and us fans putting too much into this record stuff for our own good?
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I did not read others' posts first.
I had to repost yours for me to answer your question.
No, this record thing is not getting out of hand.
In the national media, like on the NFL Network, it was reported as a story Monday night and some on Tuesday. Nothing since. The NFL Network rebroadcasts some games during the week. The Saints-Falcons Monday night game has not been rebroadcasted. I do not think it will and I checked the schedule. Saints are not in that big media market or even still, big NFL fan league known. Ex. Dallas Cowboys- America's Team. NY Giants, NY Jets-New York.
This record thing is big news in N.O. sports pages still and that is ok.
No, I do not think this record thing is getting out of hand with the Saints organization by having Brees in for the last few minutes in the Falcons game after he broke Marino's record.
The game was not over. Yes, there was a big point spread at that time. No, even taking taking Brees out when there was a big point spread in the 4th before he broke Marino's record would have been wrong. He is paid and works all 16 games and for all 4 quarters.
The record was nice, but the Brees-Coach SP-Saints thing is always game first. The Saints were not just making idle , nonsense plays, passing in order for Brees to get yards. I like how the record was important and was going to happen, but also the Saints wanted to win that game.
It is not stupid to keep Brees and starters in the last game of the season. .
This last game of the season, really, like all 16 , LOL, is important. 12-3 Saints now is good. 13-3 Saints would be better. Let San Fran have the posilbility of being 13-3, and Saints settle for `12-3? I know the Saints at this point have won a lot, Div. Cham, etc., but there is still 13-3 esp. if SanFran loses.
Saints 2011 is not over.
I understand what you mean about risking key players to injury at this point. I do not even like saying the word, "injury."
This can happen first game., Last game. It is a risk. It is football.:bng:

OldMaid 12-29-2011 02:51 PM

I agree with Srgt. and others. Brees should be allowed to do and achieve his personal best.
Saints need and can be 13-3.
SanFran might lose.
Any given Sunday.....thing.

fhotard 12-29-2011 03:43 PM

I think I read somewhere that Brady is only about 190 yards behind Brees right now.
If that's the case, two QB's might break Marino's record this year.
The question is, then, which one will hold the new record?

I'm not at all in favor of chasing the record if that's the only goal. But, if more yards are racked up while chasing the #2 seed, then GO for it!

Michigan_SF 12-29-2011 06:31 PM

In all fairness Marino doesn't have a record anymore. Brees can break Brees record and Brady can try.

Boutte 12-29-2011 11:37 PM

If they put Brees in they need to leave him in long enough to keep his TD pass streak going. That record is one for the ages.

Michigan_SF 12-30-2011 12:52 AM

Good point Boutte.

Srgt. Hulka 12-30-2011 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 361475)
If they put Brees in they need to leave him in long enough to keep his TD pass streak going. That record is one for the ages.

I agree. I almost forgot about that one.
So if we win the toss, we choose to recieve, right? So we can get all these records out if the way early?

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-30-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka (Post 361539)
I agree. I almost forgot about that one.
So if we win the toss, we choose to recieve, right? So we can get all these records out if the way early?

The records are unimportant. The Saints must play this as a regular game until it's clear that the #2 seed is out of reach and have nothing else to play for. This may be the mid 2nd quarter. It may not be until late into the 2nd half. It may not happen at all if the Rams catch a lucky break or three in the game.

Probably the best way for the Saints to ensure their position and safety from injury is simply to stomp on the Panthers early. Get up 21 or more points by the mid 2nd quarter, then look to start pulling the starters not because of the 49ers/Rams game, but because of the insurmountable lead.

But in any case, it's not about records. You can best believe that if the Saints were locked in at #2 or #3 at this point, that most starters would be sitting, and not playing.

SFIAH

homerj07 12-31-2011 08:09 PM

If no one gets hurt - its sheer genius!! Look at all the records we set.

IF someone does get hurt - worst move ever. The Super BOwl is more important than any record!!

OldMaid 01-01-2012 10:26 AM

This is one of those 50 one way answers and 50 the other way.
This is still a game. A regular season game.
#2 or #3 is a big difference.

dsrdsrdsr 01-01-2012 06:18 PM

And throwing for 5 TDs gives Brees the edge over Rodgers in season TDs, 46-45. When you're chasing an MVP award, every little helps.

QBREES9 01-01-2012 06:23 PM

D. Brees /28/35-389-5 TD's Drew's numbers today

SmashMouth 01-01-2012 07:27 PM

Mvp

hagan714 01-01-2012 07:32 PM

Records are to be looked at after you pack up your lockers at the end of the season.

13-3 this week
14-3 next week

that is the only record to care about.

OldMaid 01-01-2012 07:35 PM

I agree with hagan.
Today is over. Great game. Good win. Good standing and energy and everything for the Saints. Well earned. Well deserved. Good season.
Taking the Saints attitude, this game is in the can. Moving on to next week.
One game at a time.


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