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WhoDat!656 01-02-2012 10:37 AM

Dick King votes for Rodgers as MVP
 
Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees make NFL MVP race interesting - Peter King - SI.com

Crusader 01-02-2012 10:50 AM

I would prefer he voted for Brees but I can understand his reasoning, even thou I don't agree with all of it.

Pete 01-02-2012 10:55 AM

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WhoDat!656 01-02-2012 10:58 AM

I find it ironic that one of his reasons for voting for Rodgers was the Packers winning 13 straight.

Brees and the Saints did the same thing in '09 and he STILL voted for Peyton Manning.

JimmyB1775 01-02-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 362681)

Everyone seems to forget we lost to GB in Lambeau by single digit yaradage. As my memory serves, Aaron Rogers wasn't on the field to make the last stop against the Saints offense inside the redzone.

saintfan 01-02-2012 11:41 AM

As I've already said in some other thread, and I know most of you agree, there is no single player in the NFL who is more valuable to his team than Brees is to the Saints...and it's not even close.

If it's a statistical award only, well, even then Brees has a valid argument, but, if it's a combination of stats and intangibles and community then the award is Drew's, period. And I'm not being a homer either.

Anybody who looks beyond the stats cannot argue. We all saw what the GB backup was able to do yesterday. He even eclipsed Rodgers performance. Case closed.

But the media will give the award to Rodgers because they have that GB stiffy going right now.

In the end, when Drew is inducted into the Hall of Fame, he will take the high road and won't mention the fact that the league slighted him year after year after year, but we'll all know it to be true.

They should validate the aware and give the MVP to Drew. Period.

Danno 01-02-2012 12:07 PM

I'd probably vote for Rodgers too. He's been phenominal.

nicebush25 01-02-2012 02:31 PM

My case against Rodgers is as follows: Matt Flynn 31/44 480yds 6tds 136.4 passer rating with same offense minus greg jennings against playoff bound lions. Sounds to me like the packers wouldnt miss rodgers nearly as much as the saints and patriots would miss there QBs.

FireVenturi 01-02-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 362728)
I'd probably vote for Rodgers too. He's been phenominal.

I agree with Danno...15-1 is impressive.

Mardigras9 01-02-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 362685)
I find it ironic that one of his reasons for voting for Rodgers was the Packers winning 13 straight.

Brees and the Saints did the same thing in '09 and he STILL voted for Peyton Manning.

Great point. But like I've said before, let Rogers have MVP, Brees can be Superbowl MVP.......... AGAIN.

SaintPauly 01-02-2012 02:40 PM

How many times has Rodgers been sacked this season? Sounds to me like the o-line should get mvp.....

Halo 01-02-2012 02:42 PM

I think the fans have voted.....
From Peter King's article:

http://gulfsouthmedia.com/caps/2012-01-02_144110.jpg

pumpkindriver 01-02-2012 03:48 PM

League MVP is a great award and I believe Drew is deserving of such an honor but thats not the ultimate goal is it? Drew and the team broke a bunch of records and thats all well and good, but in the end, none of that really matters unless we win it all. The way our team is playing right now I really feel that we are gonna bring home the ultimate prize again. And that my friends, is why we are here.

TheKillerBs 01-02-2012 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nicebush25 (Post 362817)
My case against Rodgers is as follows: Matt Flynn 31/44 480yds 6tds 136.4 passer rating with same offense minus greg jennings against playoff bound lions. Sounds to me like the packers wouldnt miss rodgers nearly as much as the saints and patriots would miss there QBs.

Actually, the Patriots wouldn't miss their QB as much as we would. They did go 11-5 with Matt Cassell at the helm.

Meanwhile, Chase Daniel has a career QB rating of 88.0

Danno 01-02-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintPauly (Post 362825)
How many times has Rodgers been sacked this season? Sounds to me like the o-line should get mvp.....

nm

WHO_DAT_CAT 01-02-2012 04:41 PM

The difference between them to me is two things: interceptions and attempts. But, there are more things than passer performance to consider in MVP.

If MVP means which team would melt down without a player -- the award goes to Peyton Manning.

DrewDat 01-02-2012 04:42 PM

This Is The Same Reason I Can't Really Agree With Tom Brady Being A GREAT QB...It's The System, The System Is Made For A Quarterback To Shine In..I Don't Think Flynn Could Have Put Up That Performance On Any Team...He Wasn't That Good In LSU And I Don't Think 2-3 Years On The Bench Made Him Better

homerj07 01-02-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 362824)
Great point. But like I've said before, let Rogers have MVP, Brees can be Superbowl MVP.......... AGAIN.

& I have said it MANY times as well. Let Rodgers polish his League MVP tropy form his couch while Drew gets his 2nd SUPER BOWL MVP!! (fine by me & I bet it would be fine by Drew as well!!)

FinSaint 01-02-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 362711)
We all saw what the GB backup was able to do yesterday. He even eclipsed Rodgers performance. Case closed.


My thoughts exactly. I thought that the MVP is someone who without their respective team would not succeed. The Packers could clearly get it done without Rodgers (against a good Lions team), but I find it very hard to imagine that the Saints could dominate or even win a game with significance to both playing sides with Daniel as the QB.

I' don't want to take anything away from Daniel as he will probably get his chance to be the No.1 at some point in his career with some team, but to even suggest that he could do what Brees does is ludicrous.

I'd say it is between Brees and Brady really...

QBREES9 01-02-2012 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 362949)
& I have said it MANY times as well. Let Rodgers polish his League MVP tropy form his couch while Drew gets his 2nd SUPER BOWL MVP!! (fine by me & I bet it would be fine by Drew as well!!)

I'd bet Drew would rather have the Super Bowl win.

iceshack149 01-04-2012 12:43 PM

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Speaking of defense, what are Jim Schwartz and Gunther Cunningham going to do this week with the Lions? Yards allowed last five games: 438, 425, 477, 367, 550. And now going back to New Orleans.


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