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mutusos_galvastane 03-12-2004 03:24 PM

I just don't get it
 
What ever qb New orleans puts up on offence you ***** and complain.

given the circumstances Brooks did not play that bad this season allow me to show you something.
manning 99.0
green 92.0
mcnair 100.4
plummer91.2
culpeper 96
farve 90
brooks 88.0

seattle 1 int loss
indy 2 ints 3 fumbles 1 interception was stallworths fault loss
bucs 2 ints won
bucs 1 int 4 fumbles lost
carolina 1 fumble
Tennesee 3 fumbles

So my conclusion is this out of all these fumbles most where in bulk.
Brooks was 8 best in passer rating 4th best in the nfc the least amount of interceptions this season out of starters. out of all the games ints where thrown the saints only lost 3 games. You say owe but he had 11 fumbles do you realise that these 11 fumbles came in a total of 4 games Carolina,Bucs,Titans,colts. Now my question is this whi is resposible for the other 4 losses. I can answer for two losses Duece fumble in overtime against Carolina,Carney's blotched kick. Care too add youR insults if you wish but realise this. Brooks is also the only qb too run for 100 yards in one game than the next game throw for 400 against the raiders. Another thing if it wasn't for brooks and willie jackson we would still not have a playoff win so I guess you wan Billy joe tolliver,Billy joe Hobert,Steve Wilson,Shuler,Blake or Danny Waurffel back huh. you guys make me laugh. I must say though the one flaw that pisses me off that Brooks has yet too work on is his backpeddling the ****er backpeddles 15 yards than thinks he can out run everyone. Instead of looking up feild, or if nothing is there throwing it away or finding the open seam and running up feild for yardage. Well thats all i have too say




VaeVictus 03-12-2004 03:27 PM

I just don't get it
 
I think the problem most people have is that Brooks doesn\'t seem to care. He still holds on to the ball far too long and fumbles when he is hit. Alot of times (especially this past season) dropped balls were an issue, but Brooks has no fire. Not everthing is funny. Our offfense (except for the Deuceman) was very mediocre this year. Brooks is just a very good backup at best. He doesn\'t have that competitive fire that is needed. I hope he prove alot of people wrong this year, but I wouldn\'t put money on it.

iceshack149 03-12-2004 03:34 PM

I just don't get it
 
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iceshack149 03-12-2004 03:56 PM

I just don't get it
 
In response to your post, I agree. I consider AB to be an above average quarterback and he is not the problem with this team. Solidifying the defense with a couple of more free agent moves for the secondary and linebackers is what the organization should focus on.
The offense has it\'s problems too with receivers dropping the ball, AB\'s fumbling, and lack of discipline commiting fouls on both sides of the ball.

whowatches 03-12-2004 04:08 PM

I just don't get it
 
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you guys make me laugh.
Punctuation can be funny... I guess. :question:

mutusos_galvastane 03-12-2004 04:12 PM

I just don't get it
 
You know the smiling when he throws ints I don\'t get either maybe he has a deal with colgate or somethin for each int he throws he gets a certain amount of money who knows. You know though I would rather him do that than show that he discouraged. Because with discouragement comes hopelesness. I never seen Brooks give up once of course being i\'m from Ohio I only get too see about 5 televised games a year. I must say though with Brooks he gives us something he had not had in awhile before he came along the ability too fall behind by 20 points and still come back. For instance the saints bears game I have where Brooks gave Urlacker the 12 shuffle than stallworth burnt them for the winning score. The thing that does drive me crazy the most is the backpeddling. my self i\'m a big firm beleiver n the 1 2 3 drop. I mean your suppose too step intoo the pocket when pressure is coming and thrown the ball away if there is nothing there or find a seam to gain some yardage. HE does not have that instict thats my only problem with him.

iceshack149 03-12-2004 04:27 PM

I just don't get it
 
Quote:

Punctuation can be funny... I guess.
Tooshay!,. :)

saintz08 03-12-2004 04:37 PM

I just don't get it
 
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What ever qb New orleans puts up on offence you ***** and complain.

given the circumstances Brooks did not play that bad this season allow me to show you something.
From an earlier posted article :

QB Aaron Brooks didn\'t have a bad season, but he also didn\'t have a great one, either, despite his 3,546 yards passing and 24 TDs. In the first five games of the season, Brooks started relatively slowly compared to what many expected him to do. After all, this was his third year leading a power West Coast offense and he had plenty of weapons to work with. Averaging just over 250 yards passing per game, 1.25 TDs and one interception per game during that stretch, the Saints looked like they lacked a killer instinct as they stumbled out to a 1-4 record. Brooks went on to average 1.7 passing TDs per game over the next 11 games, while also averaging 231 passing yards per game. Brooks went on to also score two touchdowns rushing on the season (183 rushing yards) and kept his interceptions to just eight on the season - seven less than his previous season. His 59.1 completion percentag! e was also the highest of his career, so some growth in him as a player can be seen in the statistics. Brooks is under contract through 2007 and his base salary remains reasonable this year at $2.75 million. Next year, however, it takes a hefty jump to $5.5 million and continues to grow: $6.25 million (2006) and $7.25 million (2007). Entering his fourth year as a full-time starter, Brooks will now have to take his level of play to yet another level if he hopes to lead the Saints to the Promised Land - or even the playoffs for that matter.

BrooksMustGo 03-12-2004 05:16 PM

I just don't get it
 
You know, since Aaron Brooks is the new Jeff George (cannon arm, no work ethic, dumb decisions, \"me first\" player), I think there is only one guy in the whole dang league that could get him to win: Denny Green.

Denny has a fabulous history of taking lazy players, attitude problem players and dumb players and making them winners. I wonder if we could interest him in Brooks and what we could get for Brooks by way of trade?

Now if Green took the Cardinals to the NFC championship with Brooks under center, about half of this board would be up in arms. But I bet that if that happened, Green is the only coach in the league who could possibly do it with Brooks. If Green would give us his first round pick, we might be able to parlay that into a move on Eli.

We owe it to the Mannings to keep Eli safe from Al Davis.

26DEUCE26 03-13-2004 12:18 AM

I just don't get it
 
That\'s a pipe dream. Why would the Cardinal\'s want to take that chance on Brooks? I don\'t really think Brooks is lazy, or has an attitude problem. Some people are leaders and some are followers. He will never be a leader because of his lack of competitivness.

deadflatbird 03-13-2004 09:07 AM

I just don't get it
 
I think any team who has a average qb would drool at having Brooks come in... I hear out of San Diego from people they would love brooks for the 1st pick in the draft however those aren\'t the ones who make the decisions.

pakowitz 03-13-2004 10:14 AM

I just don't get it
 
now where in the hell did you hear that, i dont think u heard it at all, i think u made it up b/c u want to get rid of brooks and trade for eli, when in reality it aint gonna happen

deadflatbird 03-13-2004 03:03 PM

I just don't get it
 
Let me make this clear... I want brooks in a Saints uniform next year. That is where I stand on the fence. I have several friend in San Deigo... when posed the question would gladly trade for Brooks for the number one pick and take the 18th pick. Would I trade Brooks to San Deigo... NO!!! I don\'t see an upside when we are trying to win NOW! Bringing in Manning would set us back 2-3-4 years even. Might as well sale the farm and all its contents and start all over- building this team for 3-4 years down the road. I say again I am not for sending Brooks packing. However I have known of some others who would support such thing and wouldn\'t be far fetched in some circles.

WhoDat 03-13-2004 05:06 PM

I just don't get it
 
Good point, one I agree with. The question I keep asking myself is are the Saints dedicated to winning now? Coming into FA I thought they needed to make six or seven moves.

1. Sign or franchise howard
2. Resign Rodgers
3. Resign Thomas
4. Resign Smith
5. Sign an IMPACT MLB
6. Sign an IMPACT CB
7. Add another receiver who could make a difference.

They accomplished the first three, none of the rest. The Saints have had a 1,000 yard rusher every year since Smith came to NO, and hadn\'t had one prior to that since Dalton Hilliard. Other than Bentley, Smith was probably the best blocker we had on running or passing downs. That loss will hurt. The fact that they haven\'t signed any new players at either of our two largest areas of need (MLB and CB), makes me wonder if they want to win now or not. I\'m not for this Eli craziness, but the Saints might not be a good team for three years anyway - especially if Haslett remains head coach.

deadflatbird 03-13-2004 06:08 PM

I just don't get it
 
Well that is your opinion and opinions are like ass-wholes we all have at least one. 7 moves. Hell I figured one and that is getting a D-coach in there, but looks like I\'ll have to deal with that for another year. I like what they are doing so far and I think they are going to make a move or two more before the draft. Are we set at making a run for the super bowl... I think its a matter of the football gods shining on us. They may have signed that WR you spoke of in 7 and that is Crowell. I can\'t believe they let Smith get away either but may address that in a FB in the draft for lesser money. They could use a TE in the place of a FB though. MLB and CB are the glaring needs... I think they will shore them up before the draft to go best available player at that pick, one creating more depth and or upgrading a position. Its a far better plan than if one person gets hurt thats our season. We need a system that we can just plug any player in and still works.

saintz08 03-13-2004 09:08 PM

I just don't get it
 
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now where in the hell did you hear that, i dont think u heard it at all, i think u made it up b/c u want to get rid of brooks and trade for eli, when in reality it aint gonna happen
That little rumor really gets around now don\'t it : ;)

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WhoDat 03-13-2004 09:53 PM

I just don't get it
 
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I like what they are doing so far and I think they are going to make a move or two more before the draft. Are we set at making a run for the super bowl... I think its a matter of the football gods shining on us.
Were you happy with the moves they made last off-season? I\'m sure now you\'ll say no, but I bet that wasn\'t the case this time a year ago. So you\'re happy that there haven\'t even been rumors that tied the Saints to any LB or CB in FA? OK.

deadflatbird 03-14-2004 09:08 AM

I just don't get it
 
No Gold was suppose to Visit this weekend or last I head... I think it was even posted somewheres. But no work of a FA CB though. Rumours on the net are like a disease, they spread so fast and most have no merit what-so-ever.

[Edited on 14/3/2004 by deadflatbird]

subguy 03-14-2004 01:20 PM

I just don't get it
 
There are some new names on the board.......but those of you that were here remember I took an awful flogging complaining that we were not focused on winning , as a team, and were letting some great players slip through. I was told you cant build on free agents only through the draft. If we build a winner other players would be enticved to play for the Saints. At this point there is not incentive to play in N.O. We are doing the same this year.............ignoring needs. Oh I know, wait until cuts, i will wager the same as last year we do nothing. The team wants something for nothing. Also, we do not traditionally keep the draftees long enough to allow them to blossom. This is deja vu. Am I the only one with feelings the same as last year\'s?

saintz08 03-14-2004 01:27 PM

I just don't get it
 
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No Gold was suppose to Visit this weekend or last I head... I think it was even posted somewheres.
Contrary to reports, the Saints are not interested in LB Ian Gold.

whowatches 03-14-2004 02:54 PM

I just don't get it
 
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5. Sign an IMPACT MLB
6. Sign an IMPACT CB
These two are the ones that bother me most. I thought it was painfully apparent that we needed to address these positions this offseason. Hmm... I thought that last offseason, too.

I really hope the loss of T. Smith doesn\'t come back to bite us. Is it just me or have teams been trying to eliminate the fullback position for years only to have to embrace it again after a collapse of their running game? Tennessee comes to mind. I\'m not the boss or anything, but 1.1 mil doesn\'t seem like a huge price to pay in order to maintain the stability of a successful running game. Did we really need a multi-diminsional FB? If so, where are all of the candidates our FO had lined up to take Smith\'s place?

I\'m rambling. Kinda like this offseason.

.02

deadflatbird 03-14-2004 03:26 PM

I just don't get it
 
I don\'t think signing high priced players is the answer either. couple of key draft picks a few better than average signings in a good system... New England Patriots.

saintsiam 03-15-2004 08:19 AM

I just don't get it
 
Brooks want be traded. But Stallworth might.


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