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44Champs 01-08-2012 03:27 PM

It's time for the pundits to quit calling Ryan an elite QB
 
I hope these so-called experts shut up now. 0-3 in the playoffs.
He ABSOLUTELY does NOT deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Brees, Brady and P.Manning.

44Champs 01-08-2012 03:28 PM

Oh, and ZERO offensive points today.

Halo 01-08-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 365638)
I hope these so-called experts shut up now. 0-3 in the playoffs.
He ABSOLUTELY does NOT deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Brees, Brady and P.Manning.

COUlDn'T AGREE MORE!!

WHO_DAT_CAT 01-08-2012 03:33 PM

Who called him "elite"? Whoever they are aren't watching him play. And, they get the proper pundit label: Dumb ass.

RailBoss 01-08-2012 03:38 PM

Yeah that ship has sailed but the team collapse belongs on Smith's shoulders that was a disgraceful performance for a team representing the NFC South.

SAINTstunna 01-08-2012 03:57 PM

We should vote and place ALTANTA in the NFC WEST with the rest of the UNDERACHIEVERS!!!!!!!!

DrewDat 01-08-2012 04:01 PM

These Are The Same Idiots That Called Atlanta The "Greatest Show On Turf" Coming Into This Season....HAHA

WHO_DAT_CAT 01-08-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SAINTstunna (Post 365671)
We should vote and place ALTANTA in the NFC WEST with the rest of the UNDERACHIEVERS!!!!!!!!

Love it!!! Go west shi**y teams, go west.

WHO_DAT_CAT 01-08-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 365658)
Yeah that ship has sailed but the team collapse belongs on Smith's shoulders that was a disgraceful performance for a team representing the NFC South.

Yeah, he usually looks like he a about to cry, but today he looked like he was going to need a towel.

C17-BING 01-08-2012 07:40 PM

Matty iSUCK isn't a leader ... Leaders WIN and make others better --- I've never seen him do that. Thank goodness we have Brees!!!

Cruize 01-08-2012 08:26 PM

Cowboys, Jets, Falcons. The three most over-rated teams in the NFL. For as average as Ryan is, Smith is just an idiot.

|Mitch| 01-08-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 365804)
Cowboys, Jets, Falcons. The three most over-rated teams in the NFL. For as average as Ryan is, Smith is just an idiot.

Don't forget the Eagles; weren't they supposed to be the "Dream Team" this year? lol

xan 01-08-2012 08:35 PM

Meg Ryan is not an NFL quarterback. You fellas are just being plain mean. Just because she wears a Falcons' jersey and lines up in the shotgun does not mean she has talent or skill. And the fact that she throws like a girl should in no way be held against her. I'm sure you'd apologize if she were sitting on the couch next to you instead of the bug smear her body is imitating on the carpet of MetLife stadium.

Euphoria 01-08-2012 08:42 PM

The same idiots who keep calling him "MATTY ICE".

How about you earn a nick name.

OldMaid 01-08-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 365812)
Don't forget the Eagles; weren't they supposed to be the "Dream Team" this year? lol

I agree with both of you.
That is media talk. They really make matters worst in the end for these guys and the teams.
I am glad, have said it before, so glad, the Saints and Brees do not get that kind of media coverage and don't get too much coverage at all.
It is a curse.
The Saints get a bit of coverage after a game and then that is it. On Brees and the record that Marino left, some coverage was on that night and then the next day, practically nothing.

Go :bng:

and keep quietly going to the winner's circle.

vpheughan 01-08-2012 09:08 PM

We won't have to listen to John Gruden say "Mattttty Iiiiiiice" over and over. I think he coined the whole "Matty Ice" thing didn't he?

Michigan_SF 01-08-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 365826)
The same idiots who keep calling him "MATTY ICE".

How about you earn a nick name.

Oh boy he's earned a nickname just not matty ice.

QBREES9 01-08-2012 09:10 PM

Melty Ice, I guess he couldn't handle the pressure. He melted !!!!! I'm meltingggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

homerj07 01-08-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DrewDat (Post 365675)
These Are The Same Idiots That Called Atlanta The "Greatest Show On Turf" Coming Into This Season....HAHA

"Pouty" Roddy White started that phrase in the preseason.

Great to see that dumbass have to eat his words.

How about... Most drops of any reciever in the league!! :bng:

SaintsBro 01-08-2012 09:53 PM

I expect that you are going to see the media and pundits and power ranking types, putting down the crack pipe and backing away from the Falcons and the "Matt Ryan is elite" type talk after today. ESPECIALLY now that Tebow is a story.

See the thing is, the hype associated with Atlanta and Ryan was always a product of the "Rise Up" advertising campaign and not about what happened on the field. And that advertising campaign is OVER now, the money has been spent and the media no longer has the obligation to be nice to them. "Rise Up" was a big PR campaign by Arthur Blank, to try and counter the Falcons always being second fiddle to Sean Payton and the Saints, and to sell the myth that the team were winners or an up-and-coming franchise.

The "Rise Up" slogan literally meant to "rise up" from perennial #2 second place in the division to #1, and implied that the Falcaons were going to replace the Super Bowl-winning Saints as the dominant team of the NFC South and as a major star attraction in the eyes of the media. Ad dollars were spent, PR was being spun, and so the media gave the Falcons the benefit of the doubt and hyped up Matt Ryan as "elite," according to what the Falcons told them to say. Like talking points.

Now, after what's happened to them in the playoffs 3 times in a row, reality is sinking in and media pundits are starting to realize they have been played. Even borderline that they've been made fools of. So I think you will see analysts and pundits starting to keep their distance from from Atlanta and Ryan from here on out, backpedalling or walking back on things they said earlier about him and the team. Or just flat out ignoring them.

In fact, I'm even hopeful that this is going to be a definitive moment, like the Vikings in the NFC Championship game, that it will break their spirit, and that the Falcons will just be another team receding in our rear view mirror, from this point on.

WHO_DAT_CAT 01-12-2012 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 365816)
Meg Ryan is not an NFL quarterback. You fellas are just being plain mean. Just because she wears a Falcons' jersey and lines up in the shotgun does not mean she has talent or skill. And the fact that she throws like a girl should in no way be held against her. I'm sure you'd apologize if she were sitting on the couch next to you instead of the bug smear her body is imitating on the carpet of MetLife stadium.

OK, but, must you defame women to make fun of him? I mean, come on, he is a huge target? There are a zillion places to go with it.

You can do it!! I have faith in you Xan.

WhoDat!656 01-12-2012 05:29 AM

I posted this under the NFL tab the other day.

All of which brings us to the elephant in the room in Atlanta's 2011 post-mortem of pigskin: Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan simply can't get it done.

Read more: Costly Julio Jones trade came back to bite Atlanta Falcons in playoffs - Kerry J. Byrne - SI.com

Choupique 01-12-2012 07:01 AM

Matty douche is an icebag.

Wipe your (_!_) already.

leilung 01-12-2012 07:19 AM

I know we have no love for the Failclowns, but really? We're in the playoffs and they aren't relevant until next September, and we're hung up about Ryan? SMDH

pinch 01-12-2012 07:31 AM

I'm not sure what they're going to do now that they can't ride Ryan's or Freeman's jocks. I guess it's on to Cam..

TheOak 01-12-2012 07:57 AM

The following belong on the same list of "Not actually elite".
Matt Ryan
Sanchez
E. Manning
Romo
Roethlisberger

The talking heads just cant make it so for them...

Choupique 01-12-2012 08:51 AM

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FireVenturi 01-12-2012 09:01 AM

I would put Eli right after the Elite 3 right now. Which is hard for me because I don't really care for him.

jokeray 01-12-2012 09:08 AM

I've NEVER heard Matt Ryan called elite. Are you guys hearing that from Falcons fans or something?

44Champs 01-12-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 368168)
I know we have no love for the Failclowns, but really? We're in the playoffs and they aren't relevant until next September, and we're hung up about Ryan? SMDH

Who's hung up?? This is a football forum. If you don't want to hear about FOOTBALL then go somewhere else. Plus we're talkin about this less then a week since Ryan put out that pitiful performance in his 3rd playoff loss. Read all the posts before adding your stupidity to threads.

44Champs 01-12-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jokeray (Post 368255)
I've NEVER heard Matt Ryan called elite. Are you guys hearing that from Falcons fans or something?

It was all over the news before the playoffs and even his own coach was calling him elite. This has been a topic for a long time now.

jokeray 01-12-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 368340)
It was all over the news before the playoffs and even his own coach was calling him elite. This has been a topic for a long time now.

seriously, i've NEVER heard it. i'm sure his coach is going to say that, he's married to him.

RaginCajun83 01-12-2012 11:36 AM

What I don't understand is who in their right mind has been calling Ryan elite? So what if he was 1000-1 at home or whatever his record is, thats all they can bring up about him. If he could start throwing the ball more than 5 yards down field then maybe they could start talking about him, till then just shut up

WineDine&49 01-12-2012 11:51 AM

I agree, and it's about time he gets stripped of that "Matty Ice" label (which sounds more like a beer than a good QB, anyways).

I personally never though he was that great to begin with, even coming out of college. I thought he was another good QB that would never be anything special i nthe league and always leave his team wanting more.

While the Falcons sucked the year before drafting Ryan, only a fool would think that he wasn't drafted into an excellent situation.

That same off-season, the Falcons traded for Michael Turner, Roddy White was already a 1k WR, and they traded up to draft Sam Baker at LT.

Once a QB loses 4 straight playoff games, doubt begins to creep in their minds. The true great QB's don't have to wait 5-6 years just to get 1 freaking W in the playoffs.

Great QB's, Montana, Young, Brady, Brees, Warner... these guys didn't need half a decade to win a game.

Ryan's weak arm and unathleticism was exposed against the Giants.

JoanieNTX 01-12-2012 12:02 PM

:) The "ice" had anudder meltdown....no surprise here!

jokeray 01-12-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WineDine&49 (Post 368357)
The true great QB's don't have to wait 5-6 years just to get 1 freaking W in the playoffs.

Great QB's, Montana, Young, Brady, Brees, Warner... these guys didn't need half a decade to win a game.

Alex Smith just finished his 7th season. When did he win his freaking playoff game?


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